And may her new found "friends" all roast in hell.

This is, by far, the most compassionate post I've read so far on this story. I've had the same sentiments since it all started. Thanx for putting it into better words than I could have.

"..she should not use that speech to harm the very men and and women of this nation's military that would gladly lay down their lives on her behalf..."

Harm? Excuse me? I don't know about you, but I think that bullets and suicide bombers are doing our soldiers far more harm than Cindy Sheehan. In fact, it's Cindy that wants to bring the soldiers home, away from the bullets and bombs.

This is the problem with the far-right: they consider any criticism to be an attack against patriotism and our servicemen. Personally, bringing our troops home is the most patriotic thing I can think of. And advocating their return home certainlly isn't harming them. If anything, Cindy Sheehan may actually do our troops some good by helping to bring them back home and away from the deadly mess created by the right-wing that claims to love them so much.

Listen to your own words, my friend. According to your twisted logic, Cindy's advocacy of bringing our troops out of a war zone will do them harm. According to you, taking our troops out of Iraq and away from the suicide bombers will actually put them in more danger.

This Shehan broad's hate is so palpable and blinds her of her son's own values; no true mother would so shame her son and the values he lived to protect. This woman deserves scorn not pity. Here's a bet: there was lots more disagreement between the two of them on these very issues which preceeded his death but now he can not counter her feeble, dispicable arguments. Bah, on her patriotism also.
From a father whose son's been there and who feared for his deeath also.

Cindy Sheehan Is a woman of courage and conviction. She’s doing something that our instincts as parents tell us to do… Fight for your child. Yes it’s true that her son voluntarily joined the military, but we must look at the whole picture here. When he signed up to fight for his country he assumed that everything that Bush and his administration said was true... That Saddam did in fact have WMD’s, that Saddam was working with the terrorist and sooner or later we would have a mushroom-cloud lurking over us. Casey Sheehan thought he was fighting to protect America from the likes of Saddam. With the release of the Downing Street Memo, and the Duelfer report we know unequivocally that those assumptions were all false. The people on the right who call themselves Christians really need to do some soul searching before criticizing Ms. Sheehan.

Casey Sheehan will never celebrate another birthday, his mother will never again be able to touch his face, or hear his voice. The only thing Ms. Sheehan has left of her son is memories and photographs. Bill O’Reilly and Michelle Malkin can kiss their kids at night and tuck them safely into bed. Ms. Sheehan can’t. When Bill or Michelle sends one of their own over to Iraq and he or she returns in a body-bag, then they’ll have an inside look into the mind of Ms. Sheehan. Until then they should stop making jackasses of themselves and continue to cover fluff news.

Why would anyone expect Ms. Sheehan to sit silently by and become a picture in the background for Bush when he wants to show that he still has support from military families? It’s her duty as a mother and as an American to speak out when she sees wrongdoing by her government.

Martin you bring up good fundamental points in the disagreement between our philosophies (and in a level-headed manner, which I appreciate).

You said:

Personally, bringing our troops home is the most patriotic thing I can think of. And advocating their return home certainlly isn't harming them. If anything, Cindy Sheehan may actually do our troops some good by helping to bring them back home and away from the deadly mess created by the right-wing that claims to love them so much.

You think bringing our troops home out of harms ways is patriotic, but how can abandoning the quest for freedom be patriotic for Americans?

Bringing Americans home now in a headlong retreat--which is exactly what liberals advocate--is to throw Iraq into immediate chaos. It is not only unpatriotic, it is craven, cowardly, and criminal.

You complain about the 1,800 dead American soldiers now, but are more than willing to toss a nation of 25 million into a sectarian nightmare before their government is ready to protect it's citizens. Do you truly advocate another Rwanda? For that is what could result from your too eager withdrawl. You would foment civil war as assuredly as if you pulled a trigger yourself.

No, we must finish what we have started, giving them guidance, training and security until Iraq is strong enough to face enemies from within and without on it's own. Other countries in the region--Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, just to name a few--hope to stop freedom in Iraq, fearing it could spread to their country as it has in Lebanon.

Can you put your hatred of George W. Bush aside long enough to realize that the very headstrong nature you hate in him, is the elemental force ram-rodding a drive for freedom for over a hundred million people in Southwest asia?

Surely the chance that freedom can be established in Iraq and spread to the rest of the region is a worthy reason see this cause through. Make no mistake, freedom does have a chance, or so many despots would not be so desperately trying to stop it.

People said that Iraqis would not be able to have elections, and thay had elections. People said that Iraqis would not turn out to vote becuase of terrorist threats. They turned out in greater numbers than we did in our elections. People said they could never come close to agreeing on anthing, and yet their constitution, crafted from their own hands, is well over 80% complete.

The Iraqi people are proud people, and overwhelming proud of their chance to be free. 80-percent want us to go home, yet almost that same percentage want us to stay until they are ready to take over before we do so.

Let's listen to the supermajority of Iraqis that want a chance at freedom, not the 20% that want it to fall back into another tragic dictatorship.

The sad Judas that is Cindy Sheehan would hang the freedom of 25 million Iraqis on a cross to pay for the loss of her son.

Please don't be so selfish as this poor misguided soul.

Solomon was a jerk. That other whore was legally entitled to half of the baby.

That other whore was legally entitled to half of the baby.

You're wrong, Steve.

The Israel of 1037 B.C. was not a "community property" state.

Hey, Confederate Dunce -

Responded to your and your intellectual coterie's responses to me from yesterday. Enjoy.

J. Hamilton

Martin/Rain --

What are the alternatives? Sheehan advocates handing over Iraq and Afghanistan to BIN LADEN.

Remember him? You want him running those places?

She also advocates the destruction of Israel, calls the US "the cancer of American Imperialism," believes that the Iraq War was fought for Oil, then says it was fought because "Jews" influenced Bush, then says it was fought to make Israel safe from Iraq's nuclear weapons. She's also accused the Secret Service of wanting to assassinate her.

The woman is completely unhinged, needs help, therapy, and possibly medication. She certainly does NOT need to be paraded in front of Cameras when she is obviously mentally ill. She sounds like a poster on DU or Daily Kos. It's sick.

I feel sorry for her, but let's be real.

Bin Laden declared war on us in 1996. Issued another Fatwa in 1998 declaring it the duty of Muslims to kill Americans wherever and whenever we could be found. We didn't start this war and did EVERYTHING to avoid it.

We certainly could do what Sheehan suggests. Turn over two countries to bin Laden, one of which is filled with oil. That's a recipe for disaster, unless you are like the Kos/DU folks who openly root for America's destruction and another terrorist attack. Sadly that represents a massive portion of the Democratic Party (hating America and rooting for it's destruction). But hey just go to Kos and read all the posts praising bin Laden for yourself.

"Harm? Excuse me? I don't know about you, but I think that bullets and suicide bombers are doing our soldiers far more harm than Cindy Sheehan."

You're entirely right in this statement, though inadvertantly. Your own statement acknowledges that Sheehan does harm. The bullets DO cause more harm. Sheehan causes less harm. She simply raises the morale of America's enemies and lowers the morale of America's warriors. Thus increasing the effectiveness of the enemies bullets.

As an aside, I notice that Patrick Sheehan has been missing and quiet. Considering both the Sheehans' glowing praise for the President I wonder if his silence is a result of being less a leftist hypocrite than his wife.

Kalroy

Half-Yankee, I feel for the lady, being a Marine Dad myself, but I want our country and us to survive. Cindy, it is a world wide war against the "superior" cult of islam. They are trained from birth to hate us. They don't like anything about you. They want us to convert to islam, pay a tax to islam or die. Pity them, not our President. Ask questions of them, not our President. We didn't start this war, they did. It is pretty simple for the USA and the civilized nations of the 21st century: live free or die. And yes, it is a war for oil in the sense that the islamists want to control the world's oil [which they could never have found to start with, their religion forbids independant thought] so that they can control the world, and Cindy, they sure as hell would not allow you to do the stuff against them that you are doing against us, i.e. supporting the enemy on your son's blood. They would never allow this in their society, unless he was a homicide bomber for mohammed. We should take the oil whose proceeds they now use in a war to dominate us. Never will be dhimmified and still a Rebel after 140 years. Love our country./Since her family has correctly left her, omebody needs to love that poor mother other than the groups she hangs with.