November 18, 2005

Chicken "Hawks"

Attempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

Posted by Confederate Yankee at November 18, 2005 07:16 AM | TrackBack

One Hand Clapping was a little blunter, he finally had enough and cut loose with all barrels.
The Gunner himself, Donald Sensing of One Hand Clapping starts Cooking the war with the words “I have deliberately stayed apart from the arguments about whether President Bush cooked intelligence in order to justify the invasion of Iraq. ” and ends Listen, Senators Reid, Rockefeller, former Sen. Edwards, Sen. Kerry and your rhetorical allies: I have known many patriots. My son, fighting in Iraq, is a patriot. And you, sirs, are no patriots. You are actively betraying my son and his comrades. You are giving comfort to the enemy.

Read the Article, don't wait for the Movie

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at November 18, 2005 11:32 AM

Exiting without getting the job done is not an option imv.

More troops required imv

Posted by: Shaggydabbydo at November 18, 2005 02:27 PM

cluck cluck...

Would true conservatives countenance the fiscal rape of their children and grandchildren?

One thing the Bush Administration clearly has been very good at is focusing the attention of the press (and by extension the American people) on issues that they want to highlight. This has had the effect of advancing the Bush agenda, but has had the added effect of deflecting focus away from things that the Administration does not want to highlight. One of those issues is clearly the rampant, runaway spending of your tax dollars by Bush and the Republican majority congress. At this point there can be no doubt that, as they try to focus your attention on issues like stem cells and Supreme Court nominations, Bush and the Republican Congress are spending us all into a hole from which it will take us, our children and our grandchildren years to recover.

You don’t need to take my word for this, nor the words of any democrat or Bush-hater. You need only to read what conservatives like George Will are saying, or the people at conservative think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute. The Cato Institute recently completed a report on the spending habits of all US presidents during the last 40 years. If you’re interested in reading the report I’ve included a link at the end of this post.

If you want to continue to believe that Bush and Congressional Republicans are “on your side” or if you care only about saving stem cells and banning gay marriage perhaps you should read no further. But if you’re interested in the truth and are concerned about your financial well-being and that of your children, perhaps you should read on. Here’s some of what the Cato Institute report had to say about presidential spending over the last 40 years:

All presidents presided over net increases in spending. As it turns out George W. Bush is one of the biggest spenders of them all. In fact he is an even bigger spender than Lyndon B. Johnson in terms of discretionary spending.

The increase in discretionary spending in Bush’s first term was 48.5% in nominal terms. That’s more than twice as large as the increase in discretionary spending during Clinton’s entire 2 terms (21.6%) and higher than Lyndon B. Johnson’s entire discretionary spending spree (48.3%).

Adjusting the budget trends for inflation Bush looks even worse; his spending rate is much higher then Lyndon Johnson’s. In other words, Bush expanded federal non-entitlement programs in his first term almost twice as fast each year as Lyndon Johnson did during his entire presidency.

George W. Bush is the biggest spending president of the last 40 years in both the defense and discretionary spending categories by a long shot. He beats Johnson by almost 4% in defense spending growth and more than 3% in domestic discretionary spending growth.

And conservative columnist George Will points out that federal spending has grown twice as fast under President Bush and congressional Republicans as under President Clinton. And with respect to the argument that this profligacy is related to 9/11 and homeland security, Will and the conservative think tanks have noted that over 65 percent of the spending increase is unrelated to national security.
Will further reports that Congressional Republicans (who achieved their majority by promising fiscal discipline) have presided over an orgy of pork spending with your tax dollars the likes of which have never been seen before. In 1991, the 546 pork projects in the 13 appropriation bills cost $3.1 billion. In 2005, the 13,997 pork projects cost $27.3 billion. Does that sound like fiscal discipline to you?

You may support Bush and the congressional Republicans because of some vague promise of “progress” on social issues with which you and the Republicans agree. In that case perhaps you are entitled to refer to yourself as a “social conservative.” But nobody who calls themselves a fiscal conservative could support Bush and the Republican Congress who are spending your tax dollars in an orgy of profligacy the likes of which has not been experienced in our lifetimes. You can continue to deny yourself this truth, but be assured that true conservatives know the truth. Bush and the Republican Congress are asking you to destroy your future and the futures of your children and grandchildren in exchange for soft “promises” on social issues. You are justifying the fiscal rape of your children and grandchildren perpetrated by your “moral leaders” in exchange for a vague promise of gains on social issues.

Do yourself and your kids a favor; look them in the eye and explain to them why you have chosen to saddle them with these financial burdens, explain to them your reasoning. Then look in the mirror and explain to yourself how you can continue to support the people who you know in your heart are screwing you and to your kids. Is that morality? Is that conservatism?

Read the whole Cato article here:

Read the Will column here:

Posted by: phil at November 18, 2005 05:35 PM

Well if it isn't Phil, same off-topic post you put up at Winds of Change I see?

"cluck cluck...

Would true conservatives countenance the fiscal rape of their children and grandchildren?"

First we take care of preventing the actual rather than fiscal rape and slaughter of our children and grandchildren, BEFORE we worry to much about the fiscal.

The Dead and Enslaved don't worry much about debt.

In any Case voting Democrat would be jumping out of the pan into the fire. Punishing the GOP is just as bad.

First National Security and then Fiscal Policy.
Having No National Debt can be acheived by fiscal policy, it can also be acheived by oblivion.

I dare say the USSR has no debts today.

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at November 18, 2005 06:58 PM


I really despise of cut 'n paste, off topic comments. You're outta here.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at November 18, 2005 07:50 PM

Amazing that liberals all of a sudden discover the deficit and side with conservatives.

Oh well, maybe pigs have started flying.

I have a message for the Chicken Doves. It's another excellent commentary by Old Soldier:

Posted by: Mike's America at November 19, 2005 06:12 PM