April 06, 2006

McKinney: Symptom of the Disease

Via CNN:

No more he-grabbed-she-slapped -- whether U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney should be charged over a confrontation with Capitol Police last week will be decided by a grand jury, perhaps as soon as next week, said federal law enforcement sources familiar with the case.

Prosecutors have decided to present the case, and the grand jury will begin hearing testimony Thursday, the two sources said.

Senior congressional sources said that two House staff members -- Troy Phillips, an aide to Rep. Sam Farr, D-California, and Lisa Subrize, executive assistant to Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, R-Michigan -- have been subpoenaed to testify.

The Justice Department and the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, which is handling the case, refused to comment.

Law enforcement officials refuse to comment, while McKinney refuses to shut up, or even apologize, instead insisting that this isn't a matter of security, but one of race.

But it is about security, as it was July 24, 1998, when Capitol Police officers John Gibson and Jacob Chestnut were gunned down trying to protect members of Congress just like McKinney at the same kind of checkpoint she bypassed and ignored.

Slain Capitol Police officers John M. Gibson, left, and Jacob J. Chestnut, right.
Via the Washington Post.

Officer Chestnut was in a very similar situation to the one Cynthia McKinney placed the Capitol Police in last week, when she bypassed a metal detector like the one Officer Chestnut was manning and refused to stop.

The difference between the instances was that a bullet from Russell Weston's .38-caliber revolver killed Officer Chestnut almost instantly as he pushed through the checkpoint in 1998, and the Capitol Police were fortunate that Representative McKinney was armed only with a cell phone.

Cynthia McKinney has no respect for the men and women of the Capitol Police force who have placed their lives on the line for her day in and day out, and the dead silence of her fellow Democrats speaks volumes about how they feel about crimes against the police as well.

Democrats refuse to engage in the issue, preferring to ignore it, hoping it will go away. I think we've seen that plan before.

Update: DeLay speaks about these officers past and present as well (h/t reader Tom TB).

Posted by Confederate Yankee at April 6, 2006 02:14 AM | TrackBack

Go to and read "These Men are Heroes", it says it all.

Posted by: Tom TB at April 6, 2006 07:50 AM

But Republicans refusing to engage in issues like Bush's illegal wiretaps, renditions and torture, and one lie after another to justify a 3+ year war in Iraq costing this country billions of dollars a day is perfectly fine, right?

Posted by: 3reddogs at April 6, 2006 08:40 AM

Now let's see if there'll be an actual Grand Jury investigation and reccomendation, or if it will be white washed (or in this case black washed). Any "Representative" that feels they do not have to obey the laws they've passed and require the average citizen to obey, should have the book thrown at them.

Posted by: Fish at April 6, 2006 09:02 AM

Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

You really expect Dems to self-flagellate on TV over this nutcase? That should happen right after the Repubs apologize for DeLay. Not holding my breath either way.

Posted by: Ian at April 6, 2006 09:26 AM

what illegal wire taps?

Posted by: Specter at April 6, 2006 10:32 AM

I think the point of this is that because Cynthia McKinny is a nutcase, all Democrats are nutcases. I guess that would mean that because Brian Doyle of Homeland Security is a pedophile, all Republicans are pedophiles. Makes sense to me.

Posted by: Randy at April 6, 2006 10:47 AM

Wow... this is really the best you've got? You Republicans are in serious trouble...

Posted by: William Rabkin at April 6, 2006 10:53 AM

Lets see now, Brian Doyle was a civil service wonk that couldn't be fired by anyone. When and by whom was he hired? Has he worked in the government for over 5 years? Don't assume he's a Republican, he just may be one of your brother idiot dim-wits. In either case he's not really a criminal, he's a total mental case and life in a mental institution should be in his future, along with all pedophiles. Too many unanswered questions and assumption about the guy. The only truth so far is that he is no longer loose on the public.

Posted by: Scrapiron at April 6, 2006 10:55 AM

Added: Anyone that can't see that McKinney is a total racist, proven by her own actions, should figure out the mixture for 'Jim Jones Koolaide' and use it, they are worthless and wasting oxygen when they breathe.

Posted by: Scrapiron at April 6, 2006 10:59 AM

The best we've got about what? McKinney? Rocky? Reid? Fitz? You gotta be more specific son....

Posted by: Specter at April 6, 2006 10:59 AM

wow - you guys sure are desperate - this story is more important than delay, warrantless wiretapping of americans, the failed wars in iraq and afghanistan, hurricane katrina, abramoff, the plame leak etc?





if mckinney gets a police record out of this, she can join the illustrious company of bush and cheney...

you guys are in power - why the screeching "gotcha" victim pose? i've never seen an incumbent base so shrilly, shriekingly defensive.

maybe because your side didn't win honorably, isn't living up to its promises, and has lost the trust and support of the majority of americans?

it doesn't get better from here on out for the republicans, it just gets worse. so keep screeching. we're all having a good laugh at your expense.

you can spin it in the blogosphere all you want - history will judge w's administration as corrupt, incompetent and clueless.

god i miss REAL republicans! when did you guys turn into a religious party with no connection to reality?

Posted by: jake at April 6, 2006 11:13 AM

Dang Jake,

What reality boat did you miss? The story you seem to have missed is that U.S. Rep McKinney ignored proper procedures, ignored Capitol Police when told to halt numerous times, became confrontational and assulted a Police Officer. This goes beyond anything minor. To deflect criticism, she is claiming racisim at the top of her lungs to all that will listen.

By historical counts of previous wars, we are actually doing quite well, the people I have talked to that just returned form Iraq (they were actually there) also have high hopes and say the average people want us there.

The wiretaps aren't illegal, so say the courts so far.

CY has critisized those that need it, republican or democrat, makes no difference.

Hurrican Kitrina was a foolish debacle run by a corrupt mayor and an incompentent governor.

and last but not least,

most of the "screeching" has been coming from the Democratic camp directed at the "ILLEGAL BUSH REGIME"

Read some real news for a change and get off of Daily KO's

Posted by: Retired Navy at April 6, 2006 11:40 AM

Sure the woman is shrill, but the fact is she has been stopped on a number of occasions by the police becasue they do not recognize her. It is without a doubt because she is a black woman. If I were a congressperson and got stopped and checked because I was a black woman and didn't look like the rest of the congress, I would get frustrated too. It is racism. It is obviously not some intentional form of racism practices by the cap police, but it is reflective of the pervasive reacism that still permeates all aspects of our culture.

But the way the right wing has villified this woman becasue she got frustrated is a bit disgusting.

Posted by: lazerlou at April 6, 2006 11:49 AM

Speaking of diseases, have you checked out your little friend Tom DeLay lately, and the stench that emanates from him everywhere he goes?

I'll take McKinney anyday, over any of the Republican douchebags that are poisoning our institutions. The Bush era will go down in history as the equivalent of a 100-year plague. Corruption, greed, theft, wars of choice, reckless fiscal policies, abysmal incompetence, lost cities (NOLA), religious fanaticism, etc...

It will take an entire generation to clean up the filth and the rot that the Republicans will have left behind them.

Posted by: Devil's Advocate at April 6, 2006 12:37 PM

CF is huffing and puffing about McKinney, but notice that he is deafeningly silent about Brian Doyle, the Republican pervert from DHS who was arrested on charges of pedophilia...

In CF's world, theft, corruption, greed, law-breaking, and pedophilia, are minor issues, unless they involve Democrats.

Just goes to show you the rightnutters' lack of morals and values. Just when you think they cannot sink any lower, they manage to surprise you.

Posted by: Devil's Advocate at April 6, 2006 12:46 PM

Not one word from Democrats?

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD), 4/4/06:

[E]very one of us who visits the Capitol or any of the office buildings…have a responsibility to fully cooperate with every member of the Capitol Police…They are doing their jobs. We need to help them.

Accuracy: the hallmark of the right-wing punditocracy. Not that TownHall has ever been accused of accuracy as much as political spin from a neo-conservative perspective.

Posted by: Renne P at April 6, 2006 12:49 PM

So I'm a guard at Congress and Im supposed to remeber the faces and names of over a 1000 people that go in and out of the building everday? Plus I am supposed to check and identify each and every person that comes in to the same building but let in someone I think might be a member of congress.
Yep thats a good idea lets just let everyone in and see how that one turns out.
THIS IS NOT RACISM, this man did his job and got assaulted for it. Sounds fair to me how about you?

Posted by: 81 at April 6, 2006 01:28 PM

Is doyle a republican? I've heard it said twice now but no facts. Was he elected to DOHS? Gee I thought those were some bureaucratic jobs. Got any facts to back up your assertion DA?

Of course - up thread the same question was asked, but no repsonse from the left. And if you read that post it properly suggested what should be done with Doyle, from whichever party he is.

No as far as McKinney goes - if this has happened before - her being stopped - don't you think she'd be smart enough to wear the stupid pin? To stop when commanded by police? To not strike an officer?

As far as the Dems go - remember that McKinney held a press conference and NOBODY FROM HER OWN PARTY SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT HER. Stop defending stupidity. Oh wait - I forgot - you are from the party of Howard "AIIIIYYYYTEEEEEEEEE" Dean. Maybe that explains it - that guy actually is in charge of the Dem Party. Gawwwwwd.

Posted by: Specter at April 6, 2006 04:57 PM

While they have a case of the vapors about a cantankerous woman invoved in an altercation with the Capitol Police, the rightnutters condone perversion and deviant behavior.

Republican "Moral Values":

Republican Sex Scandals
From dKosopedia
[edit]Republican Sex Scandals
(Full list of scandals at Moral Values)

Adelphia Communications Corp.: Donated large sums of money to some of the most conservative members of Congress. They are also the first cable company to offer hard-core adult movies to subscribers. Daily Kos article

Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9. Full Article

Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Denver ABC Article

Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas Observer of sexually harassing female students.

Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn [1] and then used charitable donations to pay her hush money[2]. Fellow televangelists say he's gay. [3][4]Indicted on 23 federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering [5].

Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid for his second wife's abortion. Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Source: Washington Blade

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Source

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. Editor and Publisher article

Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Sacramento Bee article

John Bolton Bush's appointee ambassador to United Nations, corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton?s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department. Raw Story Article

Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General, prosecuted the famous Bowers vs. Hardwick case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year adulterous affair Slate article

Pat Buchanan predidential candidate, media talking-head. His campaign refused to confirm or deny whether Pat has had chlamydia or any other venereal diseases.

Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Source

Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party. Infamous serial rapist who murdered 16 women. Source: BBC

Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: With his success due in great part to support from the Christian Coalition, Bunn won his congressional seat, then immediately ditched his wife (and mother of his five children), married a staffer, and put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary of $97,500. article

John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. Source: Pensacola News Journal

Dan Burton, Republican Congressman who, while married, fathered a child by another woman. Article

George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999.

John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its "family values." Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said "We can't forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." In 1993 he was caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee the scene.

Charles Canady, Congressman (R-Florida), Judiciary Committee member. Lied to his constituents about his adulterous affair with Sharon Becker, which caused her divorce.

Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). Admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. In 1995, Chenoweth had denied the affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review, but now she claims a pardon from a higher authority: "I've asked for God's forgiveness, and I've received it," she revealed.

Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article

Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. Source: Newmax

Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS. Wikipedia Article

Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% "Morality Rating" from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. article On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.[6]

Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. Christianity Today article

Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.

Missoulian Article on the trial | Missoulian Article on his conviction

Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article

Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article

Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article

Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest. Dallas News Article | Atrios Article

John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child. American Politics Journal Article

Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute. Truthout Article. See also dKospedia's page on Jeff Gannon.

Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot. Article with documents

Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. Review Journal Article

Newt Gingrich, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. Informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer treatments. Salon article

Philip Giordano, Republican mayor sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office. NBC Article | Newsday Article

Rudy Giuliani, had an adulterous affair. Pocketed $80,000 for speaking at a charity benefit for tsunami aid which raised only $60,000 for the victims themselves (Feb 2005).

Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indeceny, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him. Full Article

Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Orlando Weekly article

Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. "I've made some mistakes" he said. USA Today article

Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family's Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep. Article

Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Source: Casco Bay weekly

Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002. page at Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Sexual Offender/Predator Unit

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush's values. Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child. Article | Commentary

Also signed an ad (that called for criminally prosecuting business that sell porn), along with another pastor who was repeatedly busted for public masturbation.

Neal Horsley has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. Admitted on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, that he's had sex with mules. Put photographs on his Web site of naked men engaging in homosexual acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely maimed fetuses. Drug dealer convicted of possession of hashish with intent to sell. He calls for "the establishment of a new government, one that can obey God's plan for government."

Tim Hutchinson, divorced his wife of 29 years to marry a congressional aide he was having an affair with.

Henry Hyde, Judge who oversaw Clinton's impeachment proceedings, prominent opponent of reproductive rights, who had an extramarital affair with a woman who was married and had three children, during the course of which she and her husband were divorced. article

Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a "slut". The full gruesome story, with many newspaper articles.

Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Source: The Olympian

Bernard Kerik, had two simultaneous adulterous affairs.

Earl Kimmerling, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Source

Lawrence E. King, Jr., Republican Activist, organized orgies with child prostitutes at the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary

I. Lewis Libby, former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 1996 published a novel containing bizaree sexual content, including beastiality and pedophillia. Full Details

Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee[7], 30-pill a day drug addict. Goodies from The Smoking

Bob Livingston, former Congressman (R-La.) resigned from the House in the wake of revelations about his past adultery.

Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Time Article

Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article

Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News

Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee?s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that ?Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.? [8] [9]

Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor The Dallas Morning News article.

Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a "devout Christian." Committed adultery with a married man.

Bill O'Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harrassment by his producer.

Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment.

Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Daily Record News Article

John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.

Brent Parker Utah State Representetive. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute. KSL News Article |Deseret News Article

John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only "I may have been an excessive hugger."

Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.

Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Pocono Record article

George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son's wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which "emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society."

Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. Herald-Journal Article |Commentary on Newsweek Article

Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.[10]

Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury."

Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28.

John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children. Wikipedia article

Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Rocky Mountain News article With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). Wikipedia article

Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in "family values", as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit againt Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times. Article

Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. Post-Gazette article

Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. LA Times article

Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Sex Offender Registry page | Article

Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary

Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ? this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ? I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died." Had an affair with a prostitute.

David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article

Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery.

Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas' war chest.

Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. (BBC Article)

Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson's Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed's inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abromoff to Reed [11], convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Virginian-Pilot Article

J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of "moral values." Has out-of-wedlock children.

Jim Wesr, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that ?any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person? among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.Source: Spokesman review

Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Tennesean Article

Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Daily Pennsylvanian article | Daily yale News Article

Posted by: Devil's Advocate at April 6, 2006 06:47 PM

But Republicans still brought honesty, dignity and decency back to the Whitehouse after our long national nightmare of prosperity, running surpluses and having a stable foreign policy ended with the Clinton administration. thank goodness for the moral fiber of Republicans.

I think this language is ambiguous, don't you?
Thank goodness GWB has to courage to protect us from the terrorists:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Posted by: lazerlou at April 6, 2006 07:29 PM

Devil's advocate, wow, what a rant! By the way, what do you think of President Lincoln?

Posted by: Tom TB at April 7, 2006 05:39 AM do a study on Democrats. I bet you can find just as many. Let's start with Ted "Splash" Kennedy. LOL


I suspect that Republicans brought more honesty, dignity, and decency to the WH than the previous admin - you know BJ Clinton and cigars in the Oval Office. Then lying about it. Some honesty, dignity and decency there.

Posted by: Specter at April 7, 2006 10:07 AM

Good argument there - "but what about the Clenis!" or "what about splashman Kennedy".

You DO realize that as time passes fewer and fewer people get such Ted Kennedy references. Kinda like Hanoi Jane references. For most people, Ted's just a bloated weeble wobble while Jane plays a grandmother in movies. Its time that these "winning" arguments were put away for good.

And sure, you could probably make a pretty good list of Democrat sex felons too.
So what.
I personally think that ALL polticians are corrupt, whatever their party. To think otherwise is to be naive.

Anyways, the point of listing all those Republican sex felons, it seems to me, is to point this out. As well as to highlight the hypocrisy that those who scream the loudest about moral values are often, in fact, sexual deviants themselves.

To automatically and reflexively think in terms of democrats = bad, republicans = good is childish.
They all suck.
Some a little less than others.

Posted by: shingles at April 7, 2006 11:02 AM

The point is that all you republican holier-than-thou thugs are a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to lecturing the rest of the country on how to conduct its sexual business.

Republicans are disturbingly concerned about what goes on in other people's pants. Democrats make no bones about the fact that we like getting in other people's pants.

What Ted Kennedy did or didn't do has no bearing on the fact that Bob Barr likes lecturing the rest of the world on abortion while paying for one.

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 11:51 AM

Teddy says it's not ok to drink and drive, or to kill someone without letting the authorities know. How's that different?

Posted by: Retired Navy at April 7, 2006 12:03 PM

Let's see Upper:

Weren't you just lecturing us on how we are supposed to behave? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.....

Posted by: Specter at April 7, 2006 12:25 PM


About getting rid of all the pols and starting over may not be a bad idea...

Posted by: Specter at April 7, 2006 12:26 PM


So if Teddy is a hypocrite it's OK for John Fund, Newtie and Bob Barr to be hypocrites too?

This don't make no sense, my friend.

I don't see how you can support lecturing other people on their lack of morality while being personally immoral.

Since I personally am pro-choice, pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization and all the other things you Republicans think are going to bring about the end of man, I don't give a crap if John Fund knocked up his friend's daughter (it is somewhat creepy) or if Bob Barr was married 3 times. That's his business.

what's really obnoxious is big butt henry hyde taking Clinton down for getting a hummer from a fat chick while he himself was guilty of, ahem, youthful indiscretions (when he was friggin 40 years old).

That's just screwy, man.

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 12:28 PM

Screwy, Upper Haight, is trumpeting the moral superiority of those without morals or with very low morals over those that set their's high enough to be a challenge.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 7, 2006 12:31 PM

You misunderstand, Specter. Or I wasn't clear in my writing. If it is the latter, let me try again.

I am not lecturing you on what to do with your sex life. That is entirely your business.

What gets my goat is people like Newt yelling about the moral decline...

An uptight stickwad like Jerry Falwell talking about moral decline is one thing (since he probably doesn't sleep around and could in all likelihood be asexual) but John Fund lecturing other people on promiscuity is laughable.

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 12:32 PM

Oy vey! Let me try one more time...and then I'm leaving.

I don't care what you do in your bedroom. And I make absolutely no pretensions towards moral superiorty.

Like most Democrats, I don't walk around worrying about whether I am more morally superior than you, or whether my moral values are better than yours, or what good moral values should be in the first place.

The only point I am trying to make (obviously very badly) is that people with the values republicans claim as being the standard of morality (no abortion, no gay marriage, no promiscuity, no gay sex) are being disregarded blatantly by some of your people. Those same people also happen to be shrilly lecturing the rest of the world on how to behave.

That is totally messed up.

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 12:37 PM

Again, Upper Haight, you enjoy calling out the obvious hypocrisies of those that have chosen a much more difficult standard to live by, secure in the knowledge that with the lower standards you hold, you cannot be as easily challenged.

Your argument is that if you never reach for anything higher, then you don't have as far to fall.



Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 7, 2006 12:48 PM

Now that's just stupid, not to mention pedantic and self aggrandizing.

Just becuase I don't care how many times you beat off a day doesn't mean my moral standards are lower, ya freak.

Let me type slow and see if this goes into your pea-brained skull.

If Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King or Mother Theresa lectured me on morality, I'd listen happily. John Fund or Newt Gingrich talking about the moral decline in this fine land is laughable. They have as much of a right to talk about promiscuity as Bill Clinton.

Fortunately, Clinton doesn't wander around telling people to keep their weiners in their pants. John Fund does. There in lies the difference.

Crikey. Why is this so hard for you to figure out?

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 01:05 PM

And what is this difficult standard Bob Barr and Newt Gingrich have set? Cheat on your wife and lecture other people not to cheat on their?

How's can you defend this?

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 01:06 PM

Brian Doyle, Homeland Security pedophile: Symptom of the disease. Gee that's easy.

Posted by: Randy at April 7, 2006 01:45 PM

Devil's Advocate, that's quite a list. Strange how these deviant-enablers can dismiss it as a rant. It's just a list of joyless Republican hypocites. They've got nothing. Out of gas. These people disgust anyone with a sense of decency, which is apparently about 65% of the population.

Shingles, I like what you say, but I doubt that the list of sex-felons among Democrats would be nearly as long as the one DA has presented. One of the big contributing factors to deviant sexual behavior is sexual repression. No way Democrats are as repressed as these pathetic Republicans.

Posted by: Randy at April 7, 2006 02:00 PM
If Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King or Mother Theresa lectured me on morality, I'd listen happily.

I'm certain you would.

A great man, Dr. King, but he was an exposed plagiarist, some of his later speeches were becoming increasingly socialist (not communist as some have wrongly said), and rumored of infidelity have dogged him long after his death. He was not a saint.

Mother Teresa was sainted, but was also an apparent liar, was disrespectful of other religions, and was possibly an embezzler, etc (You can read the Wikipedia entry as well as I). Mahatma was only human as well.

You try to act as if you are morally superior for not having the common morality of our shared national culture, and I frankly find it hilarious that you think that this is a Democrat versus Republican issue.

You stand for… nothing. It’s hard to knock down, but it isn’t much to stand on either.

No way Democrats are as repressed as these pathetic Republicans.

Of course, that's why America jails are overflowing with self-identified Democrats... becuase we're oppressing them... right?

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 7, 2006 03:36 PM

This is the most disjointed argument ever...funny. Have a nice weekend, Yank.

Posted by: Upper Haight at April 7, 2006 03:49 PM

What, you got nothing bad to say about Gandhi? Come on, dig deeper, you creep. I'm sure he was had extramarital sex, or was into deviant porn, or illegally wiretapped the british, or didn't pay his taxes on time.

Mother Theresa was an embezzler! That's rich! WHo did she embezzle? The lepers in Calcutta? Maybe that's why Calcutta is so poor. Momma Theresa took all their money.

What a pathetic retard.

Posted by: notnowjohn at April 7, 2006 04:47 PM

Good, keep paying attention to this ... real important stuff.

BTW, how's that Iraq war thing going?

(Yeah, I know 'Just great. Leberal media focus on only the bad news'.)

Posted by: Ed at April 7, 2006 05:48 PM


Care to point to an MSM article that had good news about Irzq in it? Just one? Betcha can't...


That was just about the stupidest post I ever read. BTW - does anybody know what party Doyle was from yet. I'm gonna laugh my butt off it he's a Demoncrat.

BTW - You all forgot JFK and RK when you want to talk about indiscretions. Actually though - JFK was the last great Democratic President. Did you know that the platform he ran on was to lower taxes to boost the economy? Imagine that - the complete opposite of today's Democrats. And he And tough on national security? Bay of Pigs aside, we almost went to war because he was a strong president - commendable. Since then what - Jimmy Carter? LOL. BJ Clinton - "I know how to bomb aspirin factories." John Kerry - "I lied about my military service." LOL

Posted by: Specter at April 8, 2006 08:33 PM