July 29, 2006
Another "Deranged" Muslim Attacks
Another violent attack carried out because of religion, and once more, it isn't carried out by Methodists.
Six women were shot - one fatally - this afternoon at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle by a man who told a witness he was upset about "what was going on in Israel."Police spokesman Rich Pruitt said there was one shooter, who was apprehended without incident outside the Jewish Federation building at the corner of Third Avenue and Virginia Street.
"We believe it's a lone individual acting out his antagonism," said David Gomez, who heads the FBI's counterterrorism efforts in Seattle.
Authorities did not release many details, but the FBI said the alleged shooter was between 30 and 40 and agents were investigating the incident as a hate crime. When asked at a news conference if that meant the alleged shooter was Muslim, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said: "You could infer that."
Steve at Hog on Ice captures my frustration with this and other attacks from Muslims on civilian targets nearly perfectly:
Congratulations, Brave Muslim Warriors
Seattle is Safe From Pregnant Jewish WomenWhen will the political left figure out the difference between Israel and the Muslims? Notice I don't say "Muslim extremists." That's because the "extremists" have the moral and financial support of Muslims everywhere, and because the Islam we call "moderate" is more intolerant than the Klan.
The left excoriates Israel constantly for its "brutality," complaining that Israel kills civilians. Yes, Israel kills civilians. So does every country that engages in military action. Like all civilized (i.e. "non-Muslim") nations, and to a greater degree than most, Israel strives to avoid civilian casualties, but they still happen. As a result of Muslim provocation, of course. No one bothers to point that out.
Muslims, on the other hand, target civilians deliberately. The USUAL goal of armed Muslims is to kill civilians. Partly because they're barbarians, and partly because they generally lack the guts to take on soldiers.
Israel attacks a missile battery. The Muslims shell a suburb. Israel destroys an ammunition dump. The Muslims shoot up a playground. This is the way it has always worked. Yet the poltical left squeals in outrage when a Muslim civilian dies, and they accept dead Jewish civilians as though being a Jew justifies murder.
The left wets itself when anyone dares suggest that Muslim immigrants and resident aliens need special scrutiny, or that they might turn out to be disloyal. But the left isn't around to pick up the pieces when British Muslims or American Muslims who have never been oppressed in their lives blow up a subway train or kill random citizens with a sniper rifle. Actually, they ARE around. To tell us we brought it on ourselves.
Steve (read the whole thing, it's an impressive rant) goes on to advocate the conquering of Muslim countries and forcing them into submission, which I do not advocate.
Yet.
Ask me again after the next 9/11-scale terrorist attack on this nation.
Until then, these pinprick attacks by "unstable" Muslims make me view the rest of their co-religionists with deep suspicion and mistrust
They've earned every bit of it.
...and the cops didn't want to admit he was Muslim while, even before any investigation had begun, the FBI immediately cast doubt that the attack was terrorist motivated or linked. Protect and Serve? Just whom might they be protecting and serving is my question?
Yea, we're doing such a swell job now, just think of the marvels to be achieved as we gain more experience.
Posted by: Eg at July 29, 2006 11:03 AM"The left excoriates Israel constantly for its "brutality," complaining that Israel kills civilians." and "...The left wets itself..."???
A large block of the "left" base is rich Jewish Americans who'd like nothing more than to see Israel pound Arabs out of that entire region, militia and civilians.
...More generalizations to make progressive thinkers seem weak, when in fact, that is far far from the truth.
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 12:33 PMtrackback not working... I linked to your post from Why the Muslim shot the Jews in Seattle
Posted by: bernie at July 29, 2006 12:38 PMA large block of the "left" base is rich Jewish Americans
I had no idea the left bloc was so small.
Tob
Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2006 02:08 PMTob said "I had no idea the left blog was so small." Heh! That's funny!
They think the shooter might be Muslim... ya think?! Sheesh, we here in America are certainly bright, aren't we?
I maintain there is no such thing as a "Moderate Muslim." If there is such a critter, why isn't it speaking out that in loud and clear terms that it doesn't agree with the extremists, and it is on the side of Israel??? Hunh? The silence from them is extremely deafening!
Excellent post.
Posted by: Gayle at July 29, 2006 03:09 PMI know several "moderate muslims" in the states. You get to know them when you live in a metro area with some people of sophistication. Some sentiments expressed to me are...
They feel like what is happening is an extreme waste of resources. Their people should be living secure lives in countries so rich, yet they continue to fight among themselves. To boot, other countries, including the U.S., continue to entangle in their affairs which makes it worse.
I think they have a lot to say, but in this day and age,would you want to speak freely and become a target in your personal and work life?
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 03:25 PMToby928,
When you live in Mayberry, the left block would indeed seem quite small.
If you look at a political map, you will find most developed areas containing the educated and wealthly (i.e. California and the North East), the "left" presence will be a little more noticable:)
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 03:33 PM"If you look at a political map, you will find most developed areas containing the educated and wealthly (i.e. California and the North East), the "left" presence will be a little more noticable:)"
Well said Johnny, in elite liberalism speak that is... That's the paramount reason I will not go back to the Northeast - because there is a general atmosphere of elitism. Wake up, the Sun doesn't revolve around New England or California.
As for your political map, as I recall, the red areas kind knocked the snot outa the blue areas during the last two presidential elections.
Posted by: Old Soldier at July 29, 2006 04:02 PMIf you look at a political map, you will find most developed areas containing the educated and wealthly
Hee hee, now that's cute. It also contains people like yourself but I refuse to judge entire regions by your example. You really should try to escape your provincial mindset and be more cosmo. ;-)
Its the math.
Tob
Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2006 04:05 PMOld Soldier, the last election(s) was/were close, but the clock is ticking for your kind. November is almost here...'ole silver spoon will be neutralized. Don't forget were Bush went to school, though he claims to be a "cowboy".
Only radicals like yourself are going to continue to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another!"
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 06:50 PMOld Soldier, if you think liberals are the party of the "elite", then you should read the front pages to see what your boys have done next....they tagged a raising of the minimum wage bill, with reduction of estate inheritence taxes for the "elite". Wonder which party those "elite" belong to?
If you truly believe that democrats are the party of the elite, then the republican PR machine is working wonders on the common man...
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 07:09 PMA bit of bluster there Johnny boy? Note the subject of the post, we got enemies in common. The problem with the left is that they see conservatives as more of the enemy that the homo-crushing, woment-enslaving, child-slaughtering Islamofascists. Your comments are prima facie evidence to that.
Cheers
Tob
Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2006 07:28 PM"....homo-crushing, woment-enslaving, child-slaughtering Islamofascists...." That is a mouth full Tob! You've been watching too much Heartland on Fox! Hehe.
Fascism is bad, no matter where it resides in my view. The notion that everyone must act and conduct themselves "the same", or you need to die or need to change, just plain sucks.
Live and let live man.
Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2006 08:03 PMSee you at the polls, Johnny.
So what else do you have to say about a Muslim shooting six Americans other than: "A large block of the "left" base is rich Jewish Americans who'd like nothing more than to see Israel pound Arabs out of that entire region, militia and civilians."
I'm not Jewish, Johnny, and I certainly stand behind Israel being able to live free from Hezbollah rockets and missiles raining down on them daily. You don't think that is too much to ask of radical Muslims, do you?
Posted by: Ols Soldier at July 29, 2006 08:28 PM“A large block of the "left" base is rich Jewish Americans who'd like nothing more than to see Israel pound Arabs out of that entire region, militia and civilians.”
Oh really? Have you not noticed all the self-hating Jews on the left who bend over backwards to defend militant Islam and bristle at the notion that Israel might have a right to exist?
“If you look at a political map, you will find most developed areas containing the educated and wealthly (i.e. California and the North East), the "left" presence will be a little more noticable:)”
Developed is just a fancy way of saying crowded... and considering how overrun academia is with Jew-hating leftist kooks, being "educated" is not always a good thing. (Look what happened to Rachel Corrie.)
“...they tagged a raising of the minimum wage bill, with reduction of estate inheritence taxes for the "elite". Wonder which party those "elite" belong to?”
So, according to you the left is ultra rich... but then you complain about those evil Repubicans and their "elitist" tax cuts. Huh?
Posted by: Watcher at July 29, 2006 10:04 PMI suspect that the reason that the police initially held back the muslim portion of the attacker's identity was simply to make sure that there wasn't an instant retaliation from some nut against muslims.
As for why the "moderate muslims" don't speak out, well I think we can draw some parallels here. First off, quite a few of them do - even in the middle east. Last week (or the week before) one of the top imams over there declared a fatwah against Hezbollah and their terror tactics. So it does happen.
But let's look at the Democratic Party, or even what people have termed the "moral majority" in this country. I have had several debates with people who profess to be middle-of-the-road democrats who agree that the party has been taken over by the far left of the party. They don't like the way their leaders are running things (seen the latest congressional polls?), but they don't know what to do to rescue the party. Same with the "moral majority". They are at a loss. Consequently, they wait quietly on the side, put their power into the ballot box, and wait to see what happens. I opine that the same goes for "moderate muslims" - especially with the level of negativity shown them around the world.
Johnny - you are right that there are moderate muslims - and more of them than radical. We have a Mosque near here where the leader regularly invites christians into services, and several times a year sponsors forums where he and Christian and Jewish leaders openly discuss the differences and similarities in the religions. All of them basically agree that the underlying rule is that it is not OK to hurt one another in any of the religions.
But - What I object to here is your elitist attitude. You imply that only people of "sophistication" would know this. What - are you a "person of sophistication?" Are you elite? I live in a very small town and I know about this stuff.
The fact is that there are radical muslims in the world, and that they do attack and kill people who do not believe in their POV. We've seen two egregious instances over the past few months right here in the US. The Jeep in South (North?) Carolina, and now the shooting in Seattle. And these are minor instances compared with attacks against Iraeli citizens from Hezbollah rockets and grenades (and that was continuous before the hostilities broke out). The big question is how do we deal with the fringes of society that want to force their POV on everyone else? And that is nothing new in our world - we've seen it over and over again in history. The problem is bigger now because of the fact that we have near instant communications and powerful weapons that are easily available.
Posted by: Specter at July 30, 2006 12:44 PMAMEN Specter.
IMO Radical religious sects of every type have always existed. We just didn't have the instant communication we do now to know about it.
Posted by: matt a at July 31, 2006 07:38 AMmatt a,
It is really nice to see something we agree on. On another thread here on CY there is a guy named Joseph who is obviously on the wrong end of the christian spectrum. And then there is Mel Gibson. Taken all together there are many, many vocal fringe groups. They can get instant fame if they can do soemthing big, or even draw enough people to a blog. Some of the negatives of our technology I am sure.
I agree that maybe they have always been there, but with no voice.
Posted by: Specter at July 31, 2006 01:16 PM
