September 15, 2006

Lost In Translation


I know that some fanatics certainly seem to get off on it, but is calling jihad "the hump of Islam" really what they meant to convey?

Posted by Confederate Yankee at September 15, 2006 12:21 PM | TrackBack

Join the Jihad: We want to hump you up!

Posted by: the man at September 15, 2006 01:52 PM

Isn't it strange that protesters in some far off land - Pakistan in this case - are once again holding printed signs in ENGLISH?

Posted by: MikeM at September 15, 2006 02:10 PM

That is just crying out "Photoshop me!"

Posted by: Diogenes at September 15, 2006 02:20 PM

Should'nt the guy with the stupid sign be killed according to how angry they get with the Pope, meaning no harm get's the reaction he got?

Posted by: plainslow at September 15, 2006 02:33 PM

MikeM, they realise that English is the International language of mixed-media, meanwhile here at home, we have bureaucrats translating driver's license applications into Urdu!

Posted by: Tom TB at September 15, 2006 04:42 PM

Maybe he means the "crunk" of Islam.

Posted by: brando at September 15, 2006 04:57 PM

maybe it has something to do with camels!!

Posted by: jay at September 16, 2006 12:50 PM

Derka derka.

I wish he meant that jihad was the "hump" that Islam had to overcome to be compatible with the rest of the world, sadly, I know that's not what he meant.

I just wonder if he meant to write "salami" when he wrote "Islami". Sounds pretty close if you ask me.

Posted by: Southerngayrepublican at September 16, 2006 01:29 PM

For guys on the hunt for those 72 virgins, maybe that IS what they mean.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at September 16, 2006 01:48 PM

THis is sort of simplistic and we could get into the discussion of different species of quadrapeds but what makes a camel a camel is the hump. so what they are saying is that Jihad is Islam's hump. It is what makes islam Islam. the struggle or jihad against infidels and whatnot makes it Islam. If you did not have the Struggle/Jihad then it would not be Islam.

Posted by: johnedetroit at September 16, 2006 04:58 PM

As to English jihadi signs... Pakistan is not just a bit of India hacked off into an Islamic state with a rather unpleasant connotation (land of the pure... lovely). It is so ever much India's Islamic, badly run, violent, aggressive, poorer, more corrupt doppleganger.

Lots of mutually unintelligible groups, spider webs of tribal and ethnic loyalties, regionalist irrendentists who long for various golden eras when they controlled a vast empire, good gobs of sectarian and caste conflicts (caste conflicts amongst decidedly uncaste Islamic fundamentalists, natch). Very modern and forward thinking groups in conflict with VERY reactionary fundamentalists that tend to want to go back hundreds if not thousands of years (as compared to us VRWC types who want to roll back too many decades of economic policy and a few decades of social policy).

In that environment, English is an excellent unifier and a way of communicating to all groups in the country and in India, allies and enemies both. Just the AQ types use Pashto (Farsi dialect for much of Afghanistan as well as Northwest Frontier Province and Waziristan), Arabic (they are jihadis) and its barely comprehensible dialects, Urdu, Punjabi (central Pakistan), Kashmiri (self explanatory) and also some Hindi (linguistically the same as Urdu, but with a less arab/persian vocabulary and is a name used more frequently by Hindus and other non-muslims, useful for passing in Indian Kashhmir and the rest of India and in taunting/provoking the enemy).

True this is partly to speak to the West, but when done in Pakistan or India it makes a hell of a lot more sense (and the signs are 100x more comprehensible) than when it is done in Iran and the Arab world.

Being an anti-jihadi means being interested in this stuff. Reading English newspapers of questionable vocabulary to see what is really going on that the MSM isn't sharing. Learning the names of myriad terrorist groups (including promoters and wannabes) whose names all involve God, Islam or some such to use as a counterpoint to CAIR types who claim that Islamic terrorism is a myth of Islamophobia. Learning ridiculous amounts of vocabulary, geography, history and politics to see how and where the enemy is conducting its business.

Check Rantburg for great sources of this.

Posted by: hey at September 16, 2006 06:39 PM

I too, thought it was an odd/funny sign, until I read more posts to get to the thoughtful reply of HEY. THIS sort of message posting is the sort of stuff that can get people THINKING, and REASONING, about what the HELL is really going ON out there beyond our American Big Macs, HUGE automobiles, and other trappings of 'civilisation' that we have sent our armies out to secure raw materials for...

Posted by: Mr. Natural at September 17, 2006 10:47 AM

Mr. Natural, I agree that hey's is a good post. As to yours, perhaps you should get out more yourself. That's a pretty knee-jerk list you just offered - clearly one you have been taught, not one you have thought or reasoned for yourself.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at September 17, 2006 03:16 PM

Thank you Mr. Natural. A.V. Idiot, just because someone takes the time to educate themselves about what is happening in this world does not mean that they are a knee-jerk liberal. When was the last time you thought and reasoned with and OPEN MIND? Myabe you are the brain-washed one emulating the arguments of conservative propaganda. Though I will concede that you often hear the like from a "knee-jerk liberal", it is somthing to be repeated because you folk seem to have some pretty thick skulls.

Posted by: joe at September 17, 2006 09:33 PM

what the HELL is really going ON out there

The barbarians are at the gate. That's what really going on out there.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 18, 2006 09:47 AM