February 21, 2007
Chicago Cousins Plotted Iraqi Terror Attacks
And then there were five:
Two cousins were arrested here Wednesday on charges of conspiring to commit terrorist acts against American military personnel in Iraq, as well as others abroad, in an Islamic holy war against the United States and its allies.The defendants, Zubair A. Ahmed, 27, and Khaleel Ahmed, 26, were taken into custody at their Chicago homes after a federal grand jury in Cleveland returned a fresh indictment in a pending terrorism case in which three Ohio men are already awaiting trial in Toledo.
The new indictment accuses the two Chicago men of plotting with the Ohioans “to kill or maim persons in locations outside of the United States,” including members of the armed forces serving in Iraq.
I'm going out on a limb and guessing they didn't vote Bush/Cheney in '04.
The point that I think that posters here will ignore is that it looks like the criminal justice system is up to the task of dealing with possible terrorist activity.
Give them their day in court. If they're guilty, deal with them harshly, but follow the rules.
The rule of law is one of the things that's supposed to make us better than the bad guys.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at February 22, 2007 12:07 AMit looks like the criminal justice system is up to the task of dealing with possible terrorist activity.
Once they're caught, sure.
How about splodydopes going off at mall?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 22, 2007 12:18 AMI'm thinking of some names...Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols...should we track down and intern all white protestant males in the US to prevent future terrorist attacks?
Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2007 02:05 AMFritz, that's a terrible idea. I hope you don't vote. My ideas are very different than yours.
Posted by: brando at February 22, 2007 03:46 AMPosted by Doc Washboard at February 22, 2007 12:07 AM
That's the way it's supposed to work. They are already in the country and were caught by the Justice system. Not in a war-zone on a battlefield outside the country. Bit of a difference there.
Why would you think we would ignore that glaring fact?
Posted by: Retired Navy at February 22, 2007 06:13 AMRetired Navy:
I'm saying that because of Jose Padilla. He was picked up in Chicago--certainly not a foreign battlefield--but labeled an "enemy combatant," and the government has fought hard to refuse him his constitutional rights.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at February 22, 2007 09:18 AMSo what insight does that give you that the posters here will ignore that the Justice System should take care of it?
Padilla is now in the Justice system (he should have been all along in my opinion unless caught on the battle field).
I am a poster here, I am conservative, why are you trying to speak for me? I never tried to speak for you, I welcome DEBATE, not one-sided diatribe about how bad/narrow-minded/opinionated we are. If you have a question, just ask, we will give our opinions, that's what this forum is for.
Posted by: Retired Navy at February 22, 2007 10:24 AMRetired Navy:
I generalized, but I did it based on having read and posted here for a while now. I've debated these issues here with a number of people, and my characterization was based on what they wrote.
I'm sorry if I unfairly put words in your mouth.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at February 22, 2007 02:04 PMFair enough. I've read this blog for a long time as well, generally don't contribute much but do like an honest debate.
Posted by: Retired Navy at February 22, 2007 02:23 PMIf CY readers are interested in these guys, then they should be quite interested in this donor to the Republican Party being charged with attempts to fund terrorist training camps:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/16/terror/main2488520.shtml
Bet he DID vote Bush/Cheney in '04!
Posted by: Pennypacker at February 22, 2007 11:53 PMPosted by Pennypacker at February 22, 2007 11:53 PM
Doesn't matter who they are or who they claim. Republican, Democrat, Independant, Green, whatever. Wrong is wrong.
I do find it ironic that the press put that paragraph at the end of the article though, you don't see Democratic affiliations on the end of articles for those associated in that direction.
Press Bias?
Posted by: Retired Navy at February 23, 2007 06:02 AMMost terror suspects don't have associations with either party. That's what makes this guy unusual.
Posted by: Pennypacker at February 23, 2007 12:00 PMwhy do some people confuse timothy mcveigh with muslim terrorists? Fritz?
Muslim terrorrist in this country and abroad consistently point to the quran and sunnah to support their vision, mcveigh assigned patriotism as his reason. moreover, I bet you found it difficult to site a non-muslim terrorrist in the first place, before oklahoma city who else would you have named?
I will introduce you to a word that leads people to believe that Islam preaches terrorrism as a doctrine: history. particularly recent history. with the exception of the IRA, christian terrorism is non existent and even the IRA was restricted to britain, it wasnt exported.
Since mcveigh have you seen any other white protestant males doing such things? No, because we disapprove, they didnt have a following, these muslim terrorrists do!
get a grip!
Posted by: TJ at February 26, 2007 10:42 PMwith the exception of the IRA, christian terrorism is non existent
The KKK. But maybe they're not allowed in the club, despite the crosses they burn.
How about Eric Rudolph, the bomber protesting abortion and homosexuality? There are other anti-abortion killers, and you have to admit that they're Christian extremists.
There are other white supremacists who count themselves among the flock. Do their crimes count as terror acts?
Posted by: Pennypacker at February 27, 2007 12:00 AM