March 26, 2007

The Army's Worst Recruiter

Look past the overwrought editorializing of Pam Spaulding to focus on the anti-gay and probably racist tirade ascribed to U.S. Army recruiter, Sgt. Marcia Ramode, from an official email address.

Ramode is required to display professional courtesy, even if she fervently disagrees with someone else's opinions or lifestyle. If these emails are legitimate, then Ramode should face a disciplinary hearing, and I suspect, a court martial.

The irony of this, of course, is that the person Ramode was attacking in these emails could hardly be a less professional soldier than Ramode herself.

Update: A certain liberal buffoonist apparently has reading comprehension problems, and cites the closing paragraph of this post to say saying I'm attacking the gay man who was the target of Sgt. Ramode's tirades.

Perhaps being "reality-based" means, in his mind, that he can simply make up whatever meaning he wants out of what someone else writes (it sure seems to work for Glenn Ryan Ellers Wilson Thomas Ellensberg Greenwald), but he has his facts completely turned around.

Those of us with a reasonable grasp of conversational English language might note that the comment closing the post above criticizes Sgt. Ramode for being very unprofessional, and that the gay civilian she was arguing with would make a better soldier than she.

Somehow, this is an "attack." I guess liberals consider the insinuation that someone might be a decent soldier to be offensive.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at March 26, 2007 11:41 AM

I've never heard of an E-5(SGT) being a recruiter. Usually its an E-6(SSG) or E-7(SFC) position. Its possible that she works for Recruiting Command, but is not an actual recruiter or that her email name is just out of date, but its all slightly fishy.

Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 26, 2007 12:27 PM

"The irony of this, of course, is that the person Ramode was attacking in these emails could hardly be a less professional soldier than Ramode herself."

This person posted his resume on Monster or somewhere and she tried to recruit him. He explained he wasn't interested in joining the Army because he was gay and that set her off. Apparently he was no saint either but she probably cost her herself her job. OTH selling long distance phone service sounds like an easier job than recruiting these days.

Posted by: markg8 at March 26, 2007 01:22 PM

A court-martial would be a bit much. But a Letter of Reprimand, or perhaps an Article 15 (non-judicial punishment) would be just fine and dandy. Not to mention appropriate.

Posted by: Buck at March 26, 2007 01:35 PM

There's something about that email image displayed on that web page that doesn't pass my smell test. If this recruiter really wrote that, she needs to be executed for being too stupid to deserve air.

Going beyond the gay statements are the racist remarks. I served over 20 years ago and I never heard such talk even in private. The military has been one of the most racially tolerant places I have even been in my entire life and people succeed on their merits as individuals. I have a hard time believing this is real. (I would want to see the full transaction headers of those emails, for example) But if they are real, the person responsible should receive no mercy.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 26, 2007 04:23 PM


No, Ramode's a real recruiter. She's a detailed 92 series (quartermaster) NCO assigned to Brooklyn, NY.

The Army is so short that even first-tern E-4s are being assigned to recruiting. E-5 Recruiters and Drill Sergeants are increasingly common sights.

Posted by: IRR Soldier... at March 26, 2007 08:11 PM

Still seems fishy. Recruiters tend to be rather busy. Why waste time following up a dead end by getting into an email flame war with someone who has no chance of being recruited. IRR, where'd you get that she's a quartermaster? I didn't see her MOS come up anywhere in the links or articles? Do you have an inside track on this? When I was an XO for an AIT unit we had an E-5 Drill Sergeant Candidate, but he had to finish BNOC before going to Drill Sergeant School to get his round brown.

Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 27, 2007 08:11 AM

"The irony of this, of course, is that the person Ramode was attacking in these emails could hardly be a less professional soldier than Ramode herself."

Well, he's NOT a soldier, nor did he ever claim to be. DUH!

Posted by: bill bozz at March 27, 2007 12:53 PM

Why do bloggers always seem to blame comprehension problems on their readers? Your sentence was poorly written. A reader shouldn't have to slow down in order to figure out exactly what you're trying to say.

Also, I think you're misusing the word "overwrought."

Posted by: gordo at March 28, 2007 12:11 AM

Gordo... it's pretty clearly a delicately phrased insult to the unprofessional recruiter.

Probably, folks tend to "blame the readers" because there are a large number who simply can't be bothered to use reading comprehension.

Posted by: Foxfier at March 29, 2007 11:43 AM