October 11, 2007
Expelling Hate
Think back to your college days, and imagine this scenario:
You wake up on morning to discover that flyers speaking of hatred towards a minority group are plastered all over campus, and written at the bottom of the flyer is information that frames a group you belong to as the authors.
Sadly, this is not a hypothetical situation.
What should happen to the group of radicals that attempted to frame a student group with what most rational people would construe as hate speech?
The student group targeted has an idea, buased upon commits first posited by the Student Association Executive Vice President. Only time will tell if the university has the integrity to act swiftly and justly in dealing with this slanderous attack.
Any bets on what the University will do?
(I'll need tp see the point spread.)
Posted by: Larry Sheldon at October 11, 2007 01:48 PMHmmm.
I bet they'll take the first opportunity to express the idea that people need to get along, and then quickly drop the idea of expelling anyone.
IMO if that were me I'd be suing someone for defamation.
Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2007 02:42 PMLarry --
In Life its Ownself, Dan Jenkins advised: "Always bet the under on wives at the Superbowl."
Good advice for college administrators, too.
Posted by: capitano at October 11, 2007 06:05 PMIsn't this an old Rove tactic? I seem to remember reading him tell about a time he planted negative stories about one of the candidates he was managing, knowing full well that it would look as if the opposition had done it.
An oldie but a goodie.
Posted by: nunaim at October 11, 2007 07:14 PM"Isn't this an old Rove tactic?"
This isn't very much the same, except that it's a dirty trick aimed at looking like someone else was saying something bad. I don't know that Rove was making up really nasty, racist and derogatory smears, and claiming that someone else was saying them.
Also, who's running for office here? Who's the "candidate" being managed? Apparently no one. And who's the "opposition?" Someone who simply has a different point of view, and wants to discuss it?
So what once was a dirty tricks game played by opposing candidates in elections, is now used to smear groups of people you disagree with, in order to avoid any actual discussion of issues, evidently because their position might actually be more rational than you could admit.
And you don't see a difference.
Posted by: notropis at October 11, 2007 09:12 PMnunaim, it may be easier to believe it's a Rove tactic if you could provide evidence of where you read it.
Posted by: C-C-G at October 11, 2007 09:30 PMnunaim, it may be easier to believe it's a Rove tactic if you could provide evidence of where you read it.
That's why I used a question mark. I've been trying to locate the story again, without success. Maybe it wasn't Rove; I just can't imagine who else I might have read that kind of story about. There aren't that many political operatives whose strategies get hashed over in public.
If I find the link I'll post it. It was interesting, whoever did it.
Posted by: nunaim at October 11, 2007 11:48 PMNotropis: dial the faux indignation down a notch, will you, buddy?
Posted by: nunaim at October 11, 2007 11:50 PM"dial the faux indignation down a notch"
No indignation, faux or otherwise, just an appeal for a bit of logic, and a little less knee-jerk "it's just like Rove did" -- but I know I'm barking up the wrong tree on both counts.
Posted by: notropis at October 11, 2007 11:55 PMIt is generally my policy not to cite an article until and unless I know I can lay my hands on it quickly. Perhaps you should consider a similar policy, nunaim.
Posted by: C-C-G at October 12, 2007 12:16 AMnunaim - Are you saying the progs have stolen Rove's tactics here by telling lies about the conservative students? They admitted planting the flyers and all. You are proud they have adopted the tactics of someone you hate?
You are even more messed up than I thought.
Posted by: daleyrocks at October 12, 2007 01:26 AMYou are proud they have adopted the tactics of someone you hate?
Slow down there, Tex. This is what we call "projecting."
Posted by: nunaim at October 12, 2007 09:00 AMnunaim -
"Slow down there, Tex. This is what we call "projecting.""
Sorry cupcake, but you are the one who raised the subject of the Rove tactic above. Try again.
Posted by: daleyrocks at October 12, 2007 12:03 PMDaley, he's even projecting his projecting! -lol-
Posted by: C-C-G at October 12, 2007 09:26 PMC-C-G - He stepped in his own derangement on that one!
Posted by: daleyrocks at October 12, 2007 11:53 PMNunaim -- Lyndon Baines Johnson was notorious for that sort of campaign stunt.
In one case, even his own staff balked when he wanted to start a rumor that one of his opponents enjoyed intimate congress with farm animals.
"You can't say that!" his staffers protested. "It's horrible. And there's no way you can prove it!"
"I know I can't prove it," Johnson replied. "But let's make the sonofabitch _deny_ it!"
Of course, I don't know if LBJ is the right party for your needs...
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 14, 2007 03:00 PMIf reality doesn't fit your agenda, create a reality that does.
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