Yes, i am.

I absolutely see the left pushing away from the core values that made this country great. It's undeniable.

I had a huge arguement with someone last week about a local high school that refused to let military recruiters on school grounds. Enough parents complained, so they were told they cound't come to that school. This is an afluent, liberal town. So - what are they saying? Go find your recruits somewhere else? I don't want my kid fighting for American liberties? Where would we all be if everyone felt this way?

Why does this HS get to make this choice? Why can't the fed. govt mandate recruiters at HS, or take away fed. funding?

Thank God, some people still feel a sense of personal responsibility to keep this country free!

While the insane left has been getting a whole bunch more press lately. (And much of that is, in no small part, due to the extremely left lean the presidential race has set with a Democrat v. a Communist.) I think this is just the nutroots crying loudest. They've always been there, they've just deluded themselves into believing BHO will give them a chance once he's in power, sycophants always do. What they fail to understand, is that he wants the power all to himself. The will propel him as far as they can, then he will toss them under the bus. (he's getting real good at that)

"I don't want my kid fighting for American liberties?"

Maybe they don't think that what the troops are doing *is* fighting for American liberties. Which liberties are they fighting for at the moment, for example? Who is threatening those liberties that should be fought by soldiers?

PIMF: They will propel...

The lunatic fringe has been part of America since the founding. It is a valid theory to say that the lunatic fringe founded America, or at least a critical mass of our towns.

We should not be surprised that the lunatic fringe, right and left, is alive and unwell.

"it seems that the values and ideals held by those on the far left are becoming more and more divorced from those traditional values generally credited with this nation's success up until now"

Freedom of speech, non-establishment of religion, free immigration, free land for individuals willing to work it productively, a limited military, heavy government spending on research and development (e.g. NSF/DARPA), a government bureaucracy based on merit instead of party loyalty, free enterprise with moderate and enlightened government regulation. I'm sure with time I can think of some other key items that I would credit with the successes of the USA.

I appreciate that people are noticing this, but as a child of the left I can't help but feel frustration at the slow and seemingly reluctant realization among conservatives about the Left's true nature and aims. This is the second major thread I've come across this morning on a major conservative blog expressing traces of astonishment that the Left might actually be destructive, malicious or anti-American. I'm afraid a lot of this can be laid at the feet of George Bush, a total failure as keeper of the conservative faith. Reagan understood the Left. He fought them personally in his formative years. He knew their viciousness and relentlessness, and reminded us of our need to remain vigilant, take nothing for granted about liberty or those who threatened it. Bush never "got" the left, and McCain, with his own stubborn, ignorant and sanctimonious illusions of highmindedness, refuses too. I'm afraid we're all paying, and will continue to pay, the price.

Too many of this generation has everything without working for it. They have become that infamous generation who inherits great wealth without valuing either the wealth or what it took to accumulate it. They are entitled in the worse sense of the word. A long hard depression might actually be good for this and the coming generation. Concern about life's basic necessities, as in a foxhole, tends to clear the crap out of one's head and force focus on the real and now.

In America, the PC movement dominates the educational system, the corporate workplace, the media, government agencies, and has huge inroads in the military. We are a beat down people. The majority (80%+) Christian population is hounded about their beliefs, driven into hiding about their faith, and brow-beaten when they apply moral and ethical values to the world. Most, if not all, of our Congress is weak and uninspiring and corrupt. The massive weight of government is pressing the life out of American society, delivering it to our enemies. We are told to feel good about this since "it's all good"; government will redistribute to make it so. The media will tell you what your guilt and shame load should be.

As someone wrote recently, the left has its own language code: "Need" is now someone wanting my money. "Greed" is me wanting to keep my money. "Compassion" is a politician arranging the transfer. They forgot to mention the "finder's fee" and "carrying charges" added by those "public servants".

I have several liberal Democrat family members. They are mentally ill. Their thought processes are dysfunctional and destructive. Their treatment of others is a gang approach, with demonization followed by shunning for those who question their claim to be more highly evolved and enlightened. Passive-aggression is always on the menu, borderline personality disorder is the norm, and the enmeshment is imprisoning. My clinical experience in my own family is that liberalism is accompanied by socially destructive behaviours, a divisive us-them mentality, a closed and angry mind that must destroy the "them" who don't submit to their tyranny.

Yeah, I'm noticing the divide and the gulf is widening. A lot of liberals are very confused about what constitutes a "right" in America. In my mind, I have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; I am responsible for the maintainence of all three. For liberals, a "right" is anything they can take from someone else and use for their own empowerment. So in the diseased liberal thinking, the whole world could descend on Ellis Island, and it would be the American government's responsiblity to provide and pay for every opportunity they desire. Just don't ask them to sacrifice, unless it's tax-deductible, they get celebrity-credits & bling, and only their good side is photographed.

Dark days ahead in America. I keep seeing the evil-looking hooded eyes looking back at me from pseudo-President Obama's Great Seal. This subliminal programming Obama is doing should frighten any American who has any hope of ever recovering their freedom from current government tyrannies. America cannot afford Obama's ascendancy to demigod. Crashing those hopes for change will be good medicine for the Democratic Party. I'm just not sure what the Republican Party can do with McCain, who has alienated me and others over Amendment I, Amendment II, Right to life, clearing illegals from our soil, securing the borders, et. al....

Yep, we're doomed. Time to try that ex-patriate gig for a few years.

rrpjr, I'm afraid you're right. I've already taken my IRA out of the stock market and put it in 10 year bonds. The stock market looks 6 months in advance and doesn't like the idea of a communist taking over the presidency. I've already saved myself thousands of dollars over the last month.

Plain as the nose on your face, sorry, plain as the nose on my face.

I only need to see the latest Supreme Court fiat to realize the Left is dedicated to creating a People's Paradise here. Perhaps I missed the day in school when the founding fathers included a nanny state and Big Brother in the Constitution, but this seems to be the aim of the "progressive" Luddites.

Rafar:

The Left never is willing to fight. The commies wanted the US to stay out of WWII while the Russians invaded Poland with their German allies. The red diaper types then realized once Hitler invaded Russia that the US had to fight. After all mother Russia's survival was at stake.

Nothing has changed.

When both my kids were going thru public school, we were a military family. If one of my kids missed more than a day of school, the school was all over it. You see, schools were crowded and we lived in a military town, so the government subsidized the schools on a per head basis for the children of the military. It was bribing the school system into accepting the overflow enrollment because of military bases in the area. I don't remember the exact amount, but it was substantial, like $90 a head per day of attendance. So, if your child got sick and missed a day or two of school, it cost the school a substantial amount of money. If you needed to take your child out of school for anything other than a doctor's excused absence, they were marked as truant.

Both my kids were barred for an entire semester from participating in extracurricular sports because they were "truant" due to me keeping them out of school the day their Dad was returning after a 13 month deployment and we were meeting the ship for the big welcome home celebration. The school didn't care about their loss of education for that missed day, just the loss of $180+ because of their absence from the role for purposes of getting that government subsidy. In additon, I was called to school for "parental counseling" and not once was my children's education the subject, instead I had a huge guilt trip laid on me for taking lunch and educational tools away from all the other children. The vice principal called me selfish and unconcerned about the damage to the school my children's absence caused.

This is the same school where a couple of years earlier, my then 7 year old had been told by his teacher that "God doesn't listen to prayers for baby killers," referencing his Dad's service in combat in Vietnam.

Gus my boy;

'...they've just deluded themselves into believing BHO will give them a chance once he's in power, sycophants always do. What they fail to understand, is that he wants the power all to himself. The will propel him as far as they can, then he will toss them under the bus. (he's getting real good at that)'

Seriously, you meant GWB. A typo, No?

Bonehead, if that was true- if even half of what the Retarded Left (Our Motto: "Who Needs Facts- It's True Because I FEEL It Is!") says about President Bush were true- you wouldn't have the balls to be saying anything about it.

Of course, you'd probably approve of pretty much ANY "imperial" excess, as long as it was done by a liberal.

Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian.

Ask yourself this: In what other era would we have seen either major political party nominate a candidate for president who had openly disparaged United States servicemen in testimony before Congress; conducted talks with officials of a nation with which this country was at war while the uniform of the United States Navy still hung in his closet; presented himself as having thrown medals received for valor and meritorious service away while protesting the war in which he had earned them; attended a meeting at which the assassination of government officials was discussed; begun his political career at the home of a domestic terrorist who was not only unrepentant, but who also claimed that he regretted not having conducted more terrorist operations; spent 22 years in a church whose pastor routinely disparaged this country?

Some of the things you do and choices you make ought to automatically disqualify you from serious consideration as president of the United States, chief executive of the government, and commander-in-chief of the armed forces. That the choices made by John Kerry and Barack Obama did not preclude them from being the nominee of the Democrat Party indicates that about half the country has lost its moral compass.

Has anyone examined B. H. Obama to see if there are any representation of sixes on his person, anywhere?

Rafar, how about the right of civilians to not be killed by Islamic terrorists?

Isn't that one good enough for you?

"I don't know if it is simply a matter of perception, an artifact of the campaign season, or a real and growing divide, but it seems that the values and ideals held by those on the far left are becoming more and more divorced from those traditional values generally credited with this nation's success up until now. They don't seem to be pushing away from just the right, but from the center as well.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?"

This has been their agenda for the past 40 years. Before they were a bit more subtle and hid behind a mask. The difference is that now they no longer even try to hide their true face now that they feel they are so close to succeeding.

...Why can't the fed. govt mandate recruiters at HS,...

Because if they did this country would not be free.

"Vindiciamus"

Excellent commercial!!! Move-On.Org is an "idiot" organization only promoting it's "pinhead" agenda and has no clue what heroism and sacrifice shaped this country - the same heroism and sacrifice that keeps them safe in order to spew their hatred!!!

In reading my normal daily dose of Lefty bloggers from the Milwaukee area--and I stay with those who are seemingly 'moderate' Lefties--I find myself asking whether these folks are on the same planet as I am.

The trend began about 6 months ago--perhaps co-incident with the rise of Obama.

twolaneflash

Time to try that ex-patriate gig for a few years.

That's no solution, that's running away from the fight. I'm seeing the same things you are, and I'm stuck in a country where US forces are stationed in to protect it, but a patriot has few friends over here (Japan). If America throws down her weapons, who will guard the world's freedoms? Where do we go home to?

Yep, we're doomed.

Let's not give up so easy. The founding of America was close to a miracle and likely Providential, if we lose it once, it may be for ever. Don't let the bravery and sacrifice of Omaha Beach, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and a thousand other battles be in vain; rather let their example be a source of humility and determination. Freedom is easier to defend than to establish, and we are indebted to those who gave their all to give it it to us. Fight on, Sir.

Best regards, Peter Warner.

I think the difference between the Left then-and-now is our replacement of religion with a more libertarian ethos. When I say "our," I mean all of us, not just the Left.

If you were a Communist back in the 50's, you'd probably know a thing or two about Scripture, it was all over the place. You had to know what you were fighting against, at the least.

Now you can be an Evangelical Conservative and not know what the Trinity is.

For the Left, the lack of any real concern for religion except disdain is making them think any form of knowledge that isn't centered around their paranoia is an attempt to control them. Their "values" are obsessed with preserving their "freedom," but they have no clue about basics because they don't want to know anything.

It sounds strange to say this, but at its core, what religion is about is the fact we don't know everything, and that when we act, we should act as people who have tried our best to know and do, as people who can respect others who have values because we have values.