August 14, 2008
OTM Strikes Out Again
You've got to hand it to the Obama Truther Movement (a driven mix of Hillary loving PUMAs and conservatives)... they let few things stand in the way of their absolute certainty that Barack Obama is an Indonesian-Kenyan Muslim draft dodger...including the facts.
What I can't get is why they spend so much time focusing on trying to disqualify him using questionable documents, when his proven record is so much worse.
Who gives a crap if his last name was Soetoro as a child, when he choses infanticide today?
Why should I care if Barack Obama was labelled a Muslim (obviously meant to imply he might be a terrorist), when he started his political career at the home of proud, publicly known domestic terrorists with whom he's had a long relationship?
There are plenty of real reasons to criticize Barack Obama. Let's stick to those, shall we?
I like using all of it against him. The book Obamanation is on its way as well as The case against Obama. I want to use every tool to defeat this fool.
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at August 14, 2008 03:21 PMConcur. Why not just stack it all together? And by "it" I mean the facts of him, not politically motivated assertions.
Posted by: Dawnfire82 at August 14, 2008 03:44 PMZelsdorf Ragshaft III:
I believe the point is to use the Provably True things that disqualify the fool and not the stupid made up bullcrap these morons are using. Using that stuff Helps him by giving a list of False things to hold out and cover the real things by implication that all are false.
That was a darn good post. Nice and simple.
Facts = good.
Wild Guesses = not as good.
Posted by: brando at August 14, 2008 05:03 PMThe issue, IMHO, is that if the anti-Obama folks (of whom I am one) resort to inane things like Obama not being an American citizen, that opens the door for the anti-McCain folks to make the same claim, and the MoveOnMedia is much better at that sort of smear than the Conservative Alternative Media.
By focusing on the issues rather than vague rumors about Obama's birth, we move the debate into the arena where McCain can kick Obama's tail.
Posted by: C-C-G at August 14, 2008 05:35 PMNice post; I really like the point that the real facts are so much worse than what people come up with.
Couldn't get to the "infanticide" link, though; it presented me with a log-in page. Anywhere I should try to go that I can read without logging in?
Posted by: Doranwen at August 14, 2008 11:03 PMGood for you for debunking this nonsense. There is plenty of real, provable actions to go after Barak. For example his documented voting record....such as it is.
The engine of much of this is the PUMAs who hope to discredit Barak Obama _before_ the nomination and thus enable HRC to get the nomination.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 15, 2008 03:27 AMIsn't it obvious why the juicy rumors are better than the facts?
The PUMAs, at least, often agree with Obama on things like what he has voted for. Do we really think the hard-core Hillary fans number many gun-owners?
So, they take the things that can't come back to bite them, should they win out.
I can't explain why conservatives would prefer the sillier charges. Perhaps it's b/c they're looking for a visceral, emotional outlet, having had to put up with BDS for the past 8 years? That's no excuse, however, especially since, as JP notes, citing falsehoods gives Obama cover for his actual foibles and weaknesses.
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