When the voters realize that they can vote themselves money, democracy is lost.

We are at that tipping point where the majority is going to vote themselves money by voting for Obama.

God help the USA.

I probably would have been a Commie myself, if I had been born in 1900. The Marxism has been apparent in Team Barry's rhetoric from day one. Sadly, McCain does not draw a bright line here. Possibly he doesn't believe in one. His record implies this... pragamatism and all that. Well, McCain has given little reason lately for a liberty-minded American to lend him allegience. Fortunately, Barry gives plenty of reasons to vote AGAINST him daily. I will proudly, adamantly and resolutely vote AGAINST Mr. Obama because of his color.

That color is red.

Not redstate red, the original red.

Great comments. Yes, I'm afraid more people can vote for money for themselves, so we are doomed. My son and I agree: maybe only property owners should vote, as in the old days. Voting should be a privilege, not a right!

If his pastor and mentor Jeremiah Wright had not been caught shrieking "God damn America!" and had not blamed the AIDS virus on a government attempt at genocide against African Americans, Barack Obama would still be going to that church.

Fixed it for you. Because let's face it, the only reason the ONE threw his mentor under the bus was because it was politically expedient and not because he disagreed with the Revs hate speak.

At least he can't say that it wasn't him personally as with Ayers' bombings and Wright's rants. I'm guessing the MSM has already determined that it doesn't meet the newsworthy threshold, though.

Thanks for the nod.

Maybe Socialism is a bigger boogeyman than being an egomaniacal power junky.?.

Maybe, if it goes viral the MSM ... ... wait, nevermind.

Oh, well, just one more thing in the "I told you so" bag for the next four, make that eight years.

2n2this almost makes a point worth of inclusion in Bob's original post: Barack Obama quit going to his church not because of any insensitive, inflammatory rhetoric being spewed from the pulpit, but because it became politically expedient to do so. What sort of principles does a man who so cavalierly abandons his church hold?

I've been mentioning this resurrection of the NDSAP for a while now. My bet on the next action in this war is that liberal judges will start ruling that the subprime tenants can't be evicted, because the government now owns the property.

There goes private property out the window, you get to indirectly nationalize about 10% of the country, and you now have a "captive audience" - people that will vote Democratic National Socialist in November, so they can keep the houses (and cars - thanks, Barney Frank) that they didn't pay for.

We just had a multi-billion dollar wealth distribution take place - "from those according to their abilities, to those according to their needs" - and I bet you never even felt the knife going in. Now it starts twisting....

Better get used to doing that Obama chant thing so that when it turns into doing "Zeig Heil", you'll be all practiced at responding correctly when "that one" - the ObamaNation - speaks.

It helps to keep flooding the media with more information on Obama. All of it adds up and there are people who have yet to make a decision. This is not lost til the votes are counted. We can still win. The hardest part is not to give up. This is not lost. Man u0p.

If Rev Wright didn't call Obama a typical politician who'd say anything to get elected he would still be in the Obamanation's camp even with the Amerikkka & AIDS comments. He made the grave mistake of insulting the ONE.

Freedom only lasts about 200 years anyway. The U.S. has passed that threshold so I guess we should be happy. Welcome to stagflation for decades to come.

jpe.if you don't stop you will go blind or grow
hair on the palm of your hand...

why nothing about the Alaska Freedom party?

oh right...you are hypocrites I forgot
Sorry!

To jpe-
Don't be to quick to judge this tidbit as not relavant. Sounds like you are a F***ging retard.
Wheres the birth cert? I can see the headlines now "Obozo disqualified" for Pres. Can hardly wait.

Folks, I'm just a humble commenter here (though one of long-standing), but may I offer a piece of advice?

Don't reply to the astroturf trolls.

First, all that does is give them what they want. Why help them get their jollies?

Second, CY is pretty darned efficient at deleting their comments, so yours either get deleted along with them or, more likely, appear to be replying to no one.

Just let the astroturf trolls (astro-trolls?) make fools of themselves all by themselves. If we don't answer, they'll go away quicker.

Don't worry.

This stuff does matter.

Most people just aren't really aware of it yet.

Watch and see.

One correction, my dear host. You say:

"If his pastor and mentor Jeremiah Wright had not shrieked " God damn America!" and had not tried to blame the AIDS virus on a government attempt at genocide against African Americans, Barack Obama would still being going to that church."

The correction is, if nobody knew that his pastor said those things, he'd still be there.

Well, someone already made that point - carry on!

As for the Alaska Independence Party video, dear gillie, it was
a FAKE! Had you investigated it further, you would have known
that, but alas, you grab at anything. The truth is out there, use
it or lose it.

The people will just have to experience it to believe it.

If Obama is going to win, the big question is how much of the Dem party is along with him?

It is clear groups like ACORN and individuals like Ayers and the Saul guy who defined community organizing -- were using the Marxist-Leninist play book -- that the means justifies the end --- that committed members join other groups - like labor unions and other organizations - then seek to take them over by using a variety of tactics. Or at least bend the influence of the group as a whole to help your minority view point from within. They haven't been terribly successful in taking over groups in the past, but they have always spelled out their goals and methods.

The question is how much influence an Obama in the White House will be able to swing his way within the Dem. party?

Getting news like this out is important, because it helps people connect the dots for the masses.

Why has Obama refused to shine light on his college days and activities before Chicago?

Why does he insist Ayers was just some familiar face in the crowd?

Why didn't he throw Ayers under the bus?

Why would he deny membership in the New Party?

If the American people could see some of the mountain of textual evidence of how the Marxist-Leninist taught each other how to infiltrate then (hopefully) dominate groups and eventually the government/society -- they would see that hiding group membership of key players was part of the process -- as well as using legal and illegal means to subvert the establishment --- which explains ACORN.

I'm fine with an Obama presidency. I hope once he's in office, he'll come out of the closet.

Way back just before the start of this election cycle, I wanted to see a Gingrich-Hillary run off, because those two figures polarize the other side --- and I thought that would generate a much needed, nation wide debate about what exactly the United States is in the world and at home.

Obama, given his socialist and anti-(to date) US sentiment, would have been an even better candidate to get such a debate going, but the media refused to allow the chance for such a debate and Obama was more than happy to keep his past hidden so he could win.

Now, if he gets into the White House, he will seek to activate that sentiment into policy - and maybe that will spark the soul searching our society needs.

Not to worry, Racist Revrund Wright will be Hussein O spiritual advisor in the white house and Ayers will be Attorney General.

Democrats can't change their mind, they are all brain dead.

War is coming to the streets of America sooner than you think.

Its fake that her hubby was memeber?

nope

Its fake that she addressed the group?

nope

Sorry by your standards of association, she is a radical secessionist!!!

If anyone has read BHO's two biographies, there is little doubt that they show he was heavily influenced by the very far left-socialist/communist views of his mom, his dad, his maternal grandparents and their friends, and the anti-white views of his pastor of twenty year, the Rev. Wright. If not expressly, he implicitly acknowledges this influence.

From 1988-1996, when he first ran for public office, he worked daily with ACORN and other leftist community organizers in mostly african-american Chicago communities with time out for a law degree at Harvard.

In 1996, he was introduced to politics with the express political support of socialist Ayers, his weatherwoman socialist wife Dohrn, and (we now know) the expressly socialist New Party -- whose members he volunteered to train with his (socialist) Alinsky/ACORN tactics.

From 1996-2003, he served as Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Foundation working hand and glove with avowed Socialist Ayers spending 160 million dollars promoting avowed socialist programs in the Chicago Public Schools, as well as get out the vote projects for ACORN.

There is nothing in BHO's public statements, his work, or his votes from 2004-2008 disavowing any of these activities.

The inference I draw from all of this undisputed evidence is BHO still believes that socialism is the answer to our country's ills whatever they may be. Why doesn't this concern those who support him?

Has Palin disavowed the alaska Freedom party?

Oh wait, she doesn't have to

Because again,

you all are a bunch of hypocrites

mmmm astro-turf,,,

Gillie--
Perhaps the reason Sarah Palin hasn't "disavowed" the "Alaska Freedom Party" is that there is no such thing.

Trish, DO NOT CONFUSE THEM WITH FACTS!

it only makes them scream louder

Right, right, I keep forgetting that.

Yes, this one might actually make a difference. It has the potential to fit into a 30 second or one minute sound-bite sized explanation, which is what it takes to get through to the American people anymore. All you have to do is show the evidence, and say that he's a Socialist, and he's been lying the whole time. That's something people can understand without having to read eight blog articles.

Just a short note:

I used to live in Alaska. Alaskan Independence Party most certainly exists.

http://www.akip.org/

My bet on the next action in this war is that liberal judges will start ruling that the subprime tenants can't be evicted, because the government now owns the property.

Bingo.

My mistake, that's not quite right.

This is about not evicting renters from property that their landlord hasn't been paying on.

Actually, that'd seem like a dumb thing to do anyway, assuming they're paying their rent. Good tenants are hard to find.

ReganCon,

Yes, the Alaska Independence Party exists.

However, the troll referred to the Alaska Freedom Party, which doesn't exist.

A minor point, to be sure, but still a point.

C-C-G & ReganCon

Thank you for correcting me!
I appreciate it.

Now lets look:
Its a secessionist group.
Palin's hubby was a card carrying member
Gov Palin addressed the group, sought their support and called their convention, inspiring.

Shouldn't she be convicted of treason?

This girllie chick is actually trying to equate a Governor doing her job and addressing a political group, one she doesn't even belong to with a man who's friends with a man who has slaughtered many innocent people. Is the left really that sad and pathetic?

By the way, the left keeps talking about the blue states seceding from the nation so why would girllie chick have a problem with the Alaskan Independence Party? Talk about hypocritical. But then again the lefts strategy in lying and hypocrisy.

gillie,

As I recall, Palin was the mayor of Wasilla and asked to speak at the beginning of the AIP conference, which she did; part of her expected duties as mayor, as it would have been if a Democratic or Republican convention had been held anywhere else. She also put on a Pat Buchanan when he came campaigning years ago and stopped in her town. She was doing her job as the lead emissary of her town, and was also being polite, not that you are likely familiar with that word.

But let's use your own logic, shall we?

If Sarah Palin can be convicted for treason because someone she is close to was a member of the AIP, then you should have no problem shouting from the top of the highest building that Barack Obama is an undisputed pro-lynching racist, Marxist/Leninist, and terrorist.

He has at least a 21-year relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, a pair of Marxist/Leninist domestic terrorists, was himself a member of the communist/socialist/black nationalist (racists) New Party, and belonged to a racist cult for over 20 years that was build on the teaching of the Black Panthers and Malcolm X, which claimed god must either be spiritually "black" or must be killed and viewed Jesus as a black Marxist, and do you even want me to get in his two decades of mentoring from lynching advocate Michael Fleger?

The difference of course, is that Todd Palin never did anything illegal.

Barack Obama's mentors firebombed people's homes, blew up police stations, killed and wounded law enforcement officers, carried out over 30 terrorist attacks and were attempting the most deadly terrorist attack in the first 194 years of this country when one of their idiots touched wires on the detonator of one of the last bombs they were building just hours before the attack, bringing a building down upon himself, stead of a bunch of soldiers and their dates as was their plan.

You want to play guilty by association?

Let's go. I'm just getting warmed up.

So if the KKK has a convention in New York, Bloomberg would address them, call their convention "inspiring" and say "keep up the good work"???? I doubt it.

Look Sara Palin addressed and praised a group that's stated goals is to secede from the union, perhaps violently. Her husband was enamored enough with their stated goals that he became a registered member.

Those are indisputable facts.
She has not publicly disavowed that group.
Yet you say nothing

So I am not asking for Palin to be convicted of Treason. I am simply pointing out under YOUR standard of Obama 'n Ayers she is a treasonous secessionist.
Yet you say nothing.

So no, I don't want to play guilt by association because I understand that in the course of politics, casual associations can be trumped up to mean anything. I am simply asking you to be consistent.

Is that too much to ask?

gillie, you are blatantly lying. The AIP has never endorsed violence.

And you did ask directly, "Shouldn't she be convicted of treason?"

I'll tolerate differences of opinion, but not blatant lying. Keep it up, and you'll be banned.

Yes you are correct:
I took these two quotes from the founder of the AIP as a testament to violence:
"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,"
And
"And I won't be buried under their damn flag,"

I was wrong. Not violence. But of course, its obvious that anyone who joins this party must HATE AMERICA. Right?

Regarding treason.

You are right agian!
But just to clarify, my intention was not to call for her imprisonment over treason.

My intention was to point out that under YOUR standard of Obama 'n Ayers she is a treasonous secessionist.

Sorry that was not clear.

My intention was to point out that under YOUR standard of Obama 'n Ayers she is a treasonous secessionist.

Well, you failed. Pathetically.

HTH. HAND.

Can't really top PatC, but to say there's one in every group.

Gillie, trying to nuance the Palins' interaction with the AIP to obfuscate BO's history of anti-American associations and memberships is typical, and doesn't hold water.

Like I said, PatC got it right: FAIL.

The founder of the AIP was pro-secession, but it's not in the platform of the party, they've as a group refused to advocate that. His quote also is explicit in referring to the government, as opposed to Rev. Wright who hates Amerikkka.

Besides, what happened to the liberal line about dissent being the highest form of patriotism? See, Todd Palin could use that line justifiably, but Rev. Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Pfleger, not so much, because if you hate a large segment of the people themselves, you can't be interested in improving a nation, only creating a new one over the bones of the old.

Oh, and the AIP is equivalent to the KKK? Wow. If that's your idea of logic, there's really no debate to be had.

Ya know, if the Obots want to equate Palin at AIP with Barry/Ayers/ACORN, okay. That means that Barry's aknowledged professional and ideological affinity with Marxism should get at LEAST equal media exposure, no? Let's air everyone's knickers, shall we? I knew you would!

Let us not forget that once again, the Obamamaniacs are trying to compare their Presidential candidate with the GOP's Vice-Presidential candidate.

I guess that's either a slap in the face for Obama or a real boost for Palin. :D

This is proof that Obama is indeed a Socialist. If this doesn't stop him then nothing will.

Some pages of the new party site say that he was a member, other pages only say endorsed. Some people have tried to use this to say that Obama can't help it if someone endorses him.

But there is no question that he was a member, and not just endorsed. The Illinois New Party Contract required that he be a member. They would not have endorsed him, if he wasn't a member.