October 13, 2008

Obama Knew Of Ayers' Terrorist Past When?

The left keeps wanting us to ignore Barack Obama's ties to domestic terrorists (plural) Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. That is understandable, even if we chose to buy the explanation offered up by Obama himself that he shouldn't be held responsible for attacks by the Weathermen that occurred when he was eight.

I agree. Barack Obama shouldn't be held responsible for domestic terror attacks that took place in America when Barack Obama was an eight-year-old student in an Indonesian school half a world away.

What Obama knew at eight isn't relevant.

What he knew at 20 is.

The Weathermen and the Black Liberation Army murdered police officers and a Brinks armored car guard just 22 miles from Obama's apartment in New York when Obama was 20 years old at Columbia University.

Fake IDs used to rent the vehicles used in the robbery were tied to the store that Ayer's wife and Weathermen co-founder Bernadine Dohrn worked in at the time, and she went to jail for seven months for refusing to testify about her role to the grand jury.

Obama and Ayers developed a long and radical partnership in Chicago afterward.

How long has Barack Obama know Bill Ayers was a terrorist?

A lot longer than he's willing to admit.

Update: Rick links in the "just a guy in my neighborhood" video at Brutally Honest where Hillary Clinton rips into the Obama-Ayers relationship.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at October 13, 2008 11:49 AM

Why aren't all the Republicans that also serve on the board of the Annenburg Challenge also being accused of "palling around" with this terrorist? Isn't Aren't the Annenburg's themselves Republicans and contributors to McCain's campaign?

Posted by: Cara at October 13, 2008 12:22 PM

Because none of them were unknowns hand-selected by Ayers over more qualified board members to be chairman, nor did they funnel more than a million dollars to Ayer's own personal project, the Small Schools Workshop.

That, and they didn't consort with Ayers in other projects at the Woods Fund, Joyce Foundation, and at least one other radical left-wing foundation.

Nice attempt at a dodge, though. Did the Obama campaign teach you that one?

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 13, 2008 12:31 PM

He'll recall something the day after being sworn in, when Ayers is at the celebration...but that it will have no effect on Obama's policies

Posted by: Hawkins at October 13, 2008 12:56 PM

And what will an Obama presidency look like? What about his presidential pardons? Will he pardon all the Weather Underground members serving hard jail time still? This guy scares the hell out of me. So far he seems to have issues with the First and Second Ammendments...What else? Is the the beginning of a new "Crystal Night"?

Posted by: Sparky at October 13, 2008 01:16 PM


First, the others weren't chairman of this foundation as Obama was. Second, Ayers appears to be the only member with a background in education, so he presumably led the policy discussion. Third, Ayers picked Obama, a nobody lawyer and community organizer to serve on the board. Fourth, the others were a bunch of facetime socialites trying to maintain a high profile. Fifth, none of the other board members is running for president.

Posted by: SAM at October 13, 2008 02:16 PM


When Obama went to Columbia he lived 1/4 mile from Bill Ayers

When Obama went to Columbia Ayers was attending Banks College which was 4 blocks away

After Banks Ayers taught at Columbia

After Columbia Obama worked for a year at a business intelligence newsletter place and then was a community organizer for NY Public Interest Group.

While Obama was at Columbia there was a program gathering an oral history of the SDS and Weatherman...did Obama work on this and that was the reason nobody hardly remembered his stay there.

If he worked this project few would volunteer that information to expose the link.

Did Ayers and Obama meet up in NYC much earlier than admitted and who set up the meeting?

Posted by: JustADude at October 13, 2008 02:28 PM

Bernadine Dohrn and Michelle Obama both worked at Sidley and Austin law firm - coincidence?

Bernadine and Bill Ayers hosted a meet and greet to announce Obamas bid for senator.

This record between the four - the Obamas, Ayers and Dohrn - is far reaching and needs to get more into the mainstream media. Why is this being downplayed in the media? It is truly scary that Obama could become president with this history of strong ties to domestic terrorists.

Posted by: cherie at October 13, 2008 02:38 PM

Sam I don't know what you are talking about there. Stanley Kurtz has produced plenty of paper showing that Barak and Ayers were partners in the Annenberg Challenge and that Barry gave many millions of dollars to Ayers hand-picked cronies for purposes few citizens would endorse. You might look into those purposes, they aren't pretty. The nefarious nature of it comes from Ayers being a nefarious character. IS Ayers a nefarious character? I would say so but that seems to be the question no one wants to ask.

There is an important lesson here, though, for Republicans, conservatives or just decent, sensible people of means. Annenberg set up that trust with philanthropic intentions. But trusts are just big fat targets to the Left, nothing but milch cows unbroken to the yoke. Let the academic types come in and mau-mau their way into positions of power with their blather and philanthropy will be the last thing that money ever accomplishes. As always, the people of the Right earn the money and the people of the Left squander it AND the Lefties will try to tar you with the association afterward, as we see. Some will remember that a fine man, John Heinz, left considerable sums in trusts and to his widow, Theresa. That fortune is now ammo for the socialistic takeover of this nation. Is this the legacy Heinz wanted? No way but he is long gone. You CAN NOT TRUST a person of the Left in ANY regard in ANY capacity if that office runs against their ideology. They are needy children at best; voracious parasites at worst and one can generally assume the worst. If you have a sizeable estate to leave DO NOT leave it in trust or to your descendants to administer, you can be certain they will be targeted for special indoctrination if their future wealth is known. If you leave money, leave it to established charities that are already doing the sort of thing you want to see done. If you leave your wealth under the care of a board that can be hijacked and manipulated as is Carnegie, Tides, Ford and nearly every other major trust you can name you can be certain that the funds will be used to undermine and ultimately destroy everything your worked for and everything you believed in your life long. So live long, prosper, and make specific gifts to existing charities, institutions and causes. Defund the Left or it will defund us all.

Posted by: megapotamus at October 13, 2008 03:33 PM

I linked to you at my place Bob with the YouTube video of Obama's infamous "he's a guy who lives in my neighborhood" rejoinder...

It's one helluva juxtaposition.

Posted by: Rick at October 13, 2008 04:52 PM

In addition, Ayers' father Tom was a principal partner at Sidley, and hired Bernie Dohrn, and Michele Obama and barack Obama. Coincidence?
More important: BO went to Pakistan in summer 1981, stayed with Muhammadmian Soomro (at the request of an unamed sponsor - whom Soomro would not identify "out of respect for his privacy") Soomro is now deputy Pres Pakistan. After the trip, BO goes to Columbia (why?) where Khalid al Mansour is teaching and Ayers is getting advd educationd egrees. BO admits to going to socialism mtgs there, but won't say whom he met there. It was Khalid who wrote to Sutton to get BO into Harvard. Then, his Palestinian anti-Israel links: mtgs in Chicago in mid 1990s, Rashid Khalidi (former PLO) threw fundraiser in 2001, BO gave warm speech (doc'd in LATimes) but LAT refuses to release video it has of speech until after the election! Throw in Ayers current influence on BO's education influence and his contact as recently as Dec07 with BO, then the Odinga campaign and... I am terrified of this man!!

Posted by: gael at October 13, 2008 04:53 PM

SO, is "just 22 miles from 22 miles from" like, 44 miles? Or is it 0 miles?


Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) at October 13, 2008 06:41 PM

Or, of course √484cosθ?

Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) at October 13, 2008 07:16 PM

"The Weathermen and the Black Liberation Army murdered police officers and a Brinks armored car guard just 22 miles from Obama's apartment in New York when Obama was 20 years old at Columbia University."

You do realize that the Weathermen had disbanded by the time this robbery took place don't you? Of course you don't, but that's why the news accounts refer to the people involved as "former Weathermen". You're going to have to work a little harder to manufacture evidence--circumstantial may cut it for your readers but in the real world it doesn't wash.

Posted by: William E. Canning at October 14, 2008 03:55 PM

Come now, Billy... can't you do any better than "questioning the ti--naming?"

Some of the the Weathermen dropped out and much of the remainder decided to call themselves the May 19th Communist Organization. To quote the Bard, "What's in a name?" Even then, they were referred to as Weathermen (not "former") in contemporary, near contemporary, and many modern news accounts of the murders, for obvious reasons.

There were all still Weathermen personnel, used tactics and dogma honed as Weathermen, to carry out goals espoused when they were Weathermen, on the same kind of targets the Weathermen chose.

You're trying to isolate Ayers and Dohrn from their followers because it is in your candidate's best interests to pretend that there is some sort of distance between the terrorists he's associated with, their crimes, and the crimes of those they organized and led.

The old saying is "don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

If Barack Obama didn't want to be tied to terrorists who committed treason in declaring war on America, he shouldn't have coiled his political career around them.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 14, 2008 05:29 PM

A visual timeline of Ayers/Dohrn, and Barack/Michelle would look really interesting, I think. It's difficult to keep all that information in your head straight (for most), but in timeline form, it would all come together in ways that text never could.

Posted by: douglas at October 15, 2008 03:09 AM

Great stuff. This should help to keep the focus off McCain's policies and plays straight into Obama's hands. A case of heads McCain loses, tails Obama wins. Keep it up.
By the way, when you go fishing it is more usual to take a rod and line.

Posted by: funkydoowopper at October 15, 2008 10:32 AM