April 20, 2009
The Sullivan Orthodoxy
While Miss North Carolina Kristen Dalton walked away as Miss America last night, it was runner-up Miss California that got the headlines for her answer to Perez Hilton's question about gay marriage:
When asked by judge Perez Hilton, an openly gay gossip blogger, whether she believed in gay marriage, Miss California, Carrie Prejean, said "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."
That is hardly an unconventional view in most of America, but it did expose the blithering self-centered cluelessness of at least some of those in attendance:
Miss California's answer sparked a shouting match in the lobby after the show. "It's ugly," said Scott Ihrig, a gay man, who attended the pageant with his partner. "I think it's ridiculous that she got first runner-up. That is not the value of 95 percent of the people in this audience. Look around this audience and tell me how many gay men there are."
Is he actually arguing that state and national policy should be determined by the audience demographics of beauty pageants?
Why not?
It seems to be how "conservative" Andrew Sullivan forms most of his political opinions.
Like in politics.. an honest answer can get you disqualified.
Posted by: MAS1916 at April 20, 2009 12:57 PMIt's also instructive that those who loudly demand that we tolerate their 'lifestyle', are really the most intolerant among us.
Posted by: Billiam at April 20, 2009 01:04 PMI believe America is about having free will to think like we believe. Even though I believe same sex marriage should be allowed, I ALSO believe that everyone has a right to his/her opinion and should be allowed to express it!!! Miss California didn't hurt anyone! She was asked a question, and gave an honest answer. How can ANYONE chastise her for that? God gave us free will to think like we believe, act like we want, and love who we want. I actually have gay friends who don't believe in gay marriage because they think it's a union between a man and a woman!!!
Posted by: Christy at April 20, 2009 01:28 PMHaving just watched the video, I would note that her answer was cheered by the crowd. 95% my a$$.
Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at April 20, 2009 04:25 PMVoters in 30 states have amended their state constitutions to define marriage as between a man and a woman, not same sex couples. If this were any other issue, that would lead to talk of an "emerging national consensus" But the PC enforcers and their allies in the media continue to lie about the issue and deny this reality. It is a travesty. A minority is forcing compliance upon the majority.
Posted by: zhombre at April 20, 2009 07:36 PMWhy are homosexual men interested in attending a Miss USA pageant? Seriously. It's all about the beauty and sexiness of the ladies. A gay man should have no attraction for it. And if it's about the gowns and frills, aren't there enough drag queen pageants for him to indulge in?
Posted by: MikeM at April 20, 2009 08:28 PMIt seems to me this man is denying her the same rights he himself demands
Posted by: Paul at April 20, 2009 08:57 PMMike, maybe they know something we don't and most of the girls are actually transvestites :)
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at April 21, 2009 12:16 AMTolerance at its best
Posted by: So What at April 21, 2009 11:51 AMTolerance at its best??? I wonder if he takes part in the street festival in San Fran's hometown, Folson Street Festival
Posted by: So What at April 21, 2009 11:57 AMTransvestites, JT? Not in those bikinis! Not enough room.
Posted by: MikeM at April 21, 2009 09:21 PMScott Ihrig is right, though.
She should have NOT gotten 1st runner up. She should have won.....
Posted by: Cargosquid at April 22, 2009 12:30 PMMiss California's aswer was exactly the same as President Obama's so it MUST be correct?
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at April 23, 2009 02:10 AM