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September 12, 2009

Message Delivered

Estimates of the crowd size at today's TEA party protest in Washington, DC vary widely, but most estimates place it north of half a million up to potentially two million or more.

By any estimate, that is an impressive figure, but what is more impressive than the numbers is the kind of person who turned out. It wasn't the professionally-aggrieved protester class, but men, women, and children of every age who had never protested anything in their lives. It was Democrats and Republicans and independents and people who had never before cared about political matters at all. It was a cross-section of America, who knew in their hearts that America cannot much longer survive if it continues down the path that our self-serving politicians are leading us.

Barack Obama was sworn in seven months ago in front of roughly a million Americans who hope he represented the future of this republic. Today, perhaps double that number angrily let the world know that they no longer have faith in him or his allies.

It was a powerful message.

It remains to be seen if he retains enough humility to listen.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at September 12, 2009 10:03 PM
Comments

Anyone who thought Barry Soetoro represented the future of the Republic was smoking something funny. Puh-leaze!

The Big Eared Chimp Barry is nothing but a community agitator, a racist, anti-American wannabe, who never worked a day in his life.

He and his kind of Marxist, Black Liberation Theology nut-balls need to be shown the door out of DC.

Posted by: rssg at September 12, 2009 10:46 PM

There is no humility there. The associations of his past are also his present. If you want the measure of a person, check their accomplishments and friends.

Posted by: Janelle at September 12, 2009 10:50 PM

It says a lot that he made a point of being out of town today. A leader, even an unpopular leader whose policies were widely opposed, would have at least acknowledged the gathering. This clown is just a mouthpiece, not a leader.

Posted by: Junk Science Skeptic at September 12, 2009 11:03 PM

I would say that 10% of the crowd were Senior Citizens which is fantastic in once sense and extremely sad in another in that they feel they are not being listened to and felt they had nothing left to do but to go down to DC to be heard with fellow Americans. They came in wheelchairs and with canes and were a powerful voice. NONE of these protesters were paid except for those idiot LaRouche nuts. I had a few well placed words for those tools!

I broke up an interview with one of them by screaming into the mike that LaRouche is a criminal and they don't speak for Conservatives. The traiterous oldstream media always find those tools to paint us as crazy and I despise them for it.

Posted by: Jaded at September 12, 2009 11:10 PM

Wow, I didn't know there were that many racist, Nazi, evil mongers in America. And they did such a good job of imitating normal looking people, too.

Posted by: Jayne at September 12, 2009 11:14 PM

I just returned from the LA tea party. 5,000 people. What a great gathering of Americans. I met as many as I could, all working citizens full of love for American and deeply concerned about the threat to liberty of a government gone arrogantly amok. Bill Whittle gave the best and most stirring speech -- on the constitution; you can find his work on pajamas media.

Posted by: rrpjr at September 12, 2009 11:22 PM

It all made me so damn proud to be an American again. Thank you, Tea Party Express! Thank you Glenn Beck. Thank you, America!

Posted by: Jerry Haberer at September 12, 2009 11:25 PM

2 million? No way. DC fire dept says more like 60K.

You clowns can't even count. Go back to school.

Posted by: Liars at September 12, 2009 11:52 PM

Ya know you lie you say i lie,i don't care how many it was,we went and that's all there is to it.This isn't some damn football game,our rights as american are being trampled on.I just found out today in my town the small buissness owner are going to have to pay fees on the electronics they use in thier stores,,,WHAT!!!!? You know the card swipers and the computers,this after hitting the antique dealers with fees for each consignment booth,plus another fee for just being on main street.Janet the Napolian tanto head of FEMA hit all of us home owners with flood insurance fees that don't even cover my belongings but cover the lenders money,that my friend is SOCIALISM!!!!Ass far as i am concerned her and her cronies can kiss my ASS!

Posted by: Chief Thundermoon at September 13, 2009 12:36 AM

Can't you just behave like adults for four years?

You'll get another chance to convince the rest of us to let you drive the country into the ground again, in 2012. Until then, can't you just man-up and admit that democracy means you don't always get your way? Or are you going to stamp your feet and wave your fists like cranky three year olds ?

You're embarrassing yourselves.

Posted by: Get Over It at September 13, 2009 12:48 AM

>>"Or are you going to stamp your feet and wave your fists like cranky three year olds?"


You mean like you Democrats did for the entire eight years Bush was in office? Yes, we're going to be every bit as annoying as you were. Deal with it.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 01:07 AM

Whatever happened to Dissent is Patriotic
How is that embarrassing?
You should be embarrassed, you control the congress and the presidency and you are worried about a few people who disagree with The Man.
Whoa the 60's must finally be over!

Posted by: Frank at September 13, 2009 01:09 AM

Worried ? Hardly. Once again, you over-estimate yourselves.

Upset over dissent? Not even a little. But let's face it, "dissent" is a mighty big word to use to people walking around screaming about things which have no basis in reality.

Posted by: Worried? at September 13, 2009 01:26 AM

@ Worried?

I could give you about 60 thousand angry Americans who disagree with you...

Posted by: Anthony at September 13, 2009 01:32 AM

>> "dissent" is a mighty big word to use to people walking around screaming about things which have no basis in reality."


Funny how you didn't look at it that way between 2001 and 2008. In those years you regarded dissent as the most noble and patriotic thing a person could do. Now all of a sudden it's the hallmark of cranks and crazies.

If lefties could not be hypocrites, they would not know how to behave at all.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 01:54 AM

For all the people that represented us in Washington DC and all the other events THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! You guys were awesome!!! I am so proud of all of you you don't even know. We will succeed and our weapon is our heart and soul and the most powerful of all the truth! Great job lets keep it up, and may God bless us all.

Posted by: jann at September 13, 2009 05:55 AM

"Wow, I didn't know there were that many racist, Nazi, evil mongers in America. And they did such a good job of imitating normal looking people, too."

Jayne

Please note that this is not a thread about Obama's address to congress.

Posted by: Pinandpuller at September 13, 2009 07:41 AM

Why do the Obama astroturfers need to use different screen names all the time? If you guys are so representative of ACTUAL public opinion why does ACORN have to pay you pukes to go out, misrepresent yourselves and pollute the boards of genuine citizens? Pathetic. Muy pathetic. And it was the Dems who originally said to prepare for 2 mil on the Mall. Like all their tricks, this one is old and obvious: inflate expectations so the whole thing can later be called a failure. Ooops! The inflated figure... the one Axelrod and Rahm couldn't believe was approachable was actually met. There is a collective pants-clearing exercise going on now Chez Obama. But do not expect any serious change in course. This will have to be done again. And again. And bigger.

Posted by: megapotamus at September 13, 2009 08:03 AM

"2 million? No way. DC fire dept says more like 60K."

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/danceswithglock/motivatorb06ef63843b4a997ff57c0ed4c.jpg

Yeah, that looks like 60K to me.

You libs cant even lie well.

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2009 08:07 AM

Charles Johnson, in his redirected jihad against anyone from the right who mentions God, the South, or gets too mean to jihadis called Robert Stacy McCain a Southern white supremacist yesterday in connection with the DC Tea Party. CJ was also claiming he "lost count" of Obama = Hilter signs (funny, I watched video yesterday and did not see one).

In response, R.S.McCain gives one of the best comebacks and defenses of the South and conservatism I have ever read. Read it all.

Point I.

Point II.

Point III.

Posted by: Joe at September 13, 2009 10:25 AM

Ahem -

We are a REPUBLIC - not a Democracy

I saw one of the LaRouche Obama as Hitler signs - big whop-de-do.

There was also one woman with a Confederate Flag - oh the horrors - divert your eyes.

But anyone who can look at those traffic cam and airial photos and minimize that crowd down to 60K deserves a job in the state run media or in the Obama propaganda administration.

Posted by: neomom at September 13, 2009 10:51 AM

most estimates place it north of half a million up to potentially two million or more.

"Most" consists of who exactly? Even Fox News -- who's been promoting this event for weeks -- calls it "tens of thousands". Not even hundreds of thousands, much less over a million.

Posted by: Pennypacker at September 13, 2009 10:54 AM

>>"Most" consists of who exactly?


Most media outlets.

Also, most peoples eyeballs. Stop reading Kos for five seconds and look at some aerial pictures of the event.

It's remarkable the way you people will refuse to believe what your own eyes tell you.

Lastly, stop the silly sockpuppeting. Pick a name and stick with it.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 11:09 AM

Who is Charles Johnson?

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 11:10 AM

Here's your "60 thouand", Mr Socky.

Link.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 11:21 AM

Kibbe from FreedomWorks lied about ABC quoting the crowd size at 1 to 1.5 million. The DC fire department and law enforcement agencies estimate the crowd at 70,000. All the bloggers and right-wing media outlets ran with those numbers including Malkin quoting the crowd at 2 million. At one point yesterday, Fox News reported the crowd size at 400 million. That's FOUR HUNDRED MILLION!!! That's every human being in our country and approximately 100 million shipped in from other countries. Neat trick!

FreedomWorks has apologized for misquoting ABC News for lying about the alleged crowd size report:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055

And the message has been delivered quite clearly: 70,000 divided by 50 states equals 1400 protesters per state. Hope you're not planning on winning any elections with those incredibly dismal numbers. The message is you're still not a threat and we're still moving forward.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 13, 2009 02:05 PM

I guess it will now be time for the right to learn how useless and ineffective mass protest is. I and millions of others demonstrated against the Iraq war, and I doubt Bush even realized the protests were taking place. Don't expect Obama to care either, he knows none of you voted for him anyway. The USA is a sham of a democracy, ruled by corrupt and omnipotent corporations and the elites who serve them. It does not matter in any profound way which party is in the White House.

Posted by: wbutler at September 13, 2009 02:25 PM

"At one point yesterday, Fox News reported the crowd size at 400 million."

Can you please provide a link to this claim?

"And the message has been delivered quite clearly: 70,000 divided by 50 states equals 1400 protesters per state."

lets assume that there were only 70,000 people there. Lets also use a little bit of logic, just a wee bit ok.

Logic would dictate that only a small percentage of people that agree with those protesters actually went, logic also dictates that the further away from DC you get, the lower the percentage of people that share those views.

Take me for example. I did not go, but the only reason I did not, was because I did not know about it. Yes, shame on me.

As it was not widely reported on beforehand, logic would dictate that many Americans didn't even know there was going to be an event.

Logic would also dictate, that as many Americans do not even watch the nightly news anymore, that had it been widely reported on, they wouldn't have known about it.

Your argument, as stated in your post, is idiotic.

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2009 02:32 PM

Politicians in Washington should take this serious. When one compares the appearance and behavior of these protestors, to the liberal/leftists/progressive protestors, its easy to see these protestors are the bill payers of this country and not the takers. Without the support of the bill payers Washington will not be able to "water the weeds".

Posted by: Rick at September 13, 2009 02:33 PM

Well said wbutler. There were twice as many protesters in anti-war/anti-Bush rallies coordinated in both Washington and New York and despite the Left honking their own wankers on such a "clear message", Bush still got re-elected. And the Left didn't have a mainstream media cable news channel dedicated to broadcasting them all day like Fox News did for these tea-baggers yesterday.

The crowd was impressive, no doubt about it but what was the message? There was tons and tons of messages spewing about all sorts of paranoid stupid crap. Nobody made any rational points about anything. A mob of angry dimwits who couldn't even stay on message about anything. Why? No leadership! Np shepherds to coral the sheep into making sense about anything at all. It's nice that these protesters showed up but they are followers, not leaders. Without somebody besides TV, Radio and blogger personalities to lead them into the promise land of making a difference, I don't think they should be a concern to anybody. Just a gathering of angry dumb folk.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 13, 2009 02:38 PM

"Logic would dictate that only a small percentage of people that agree with those protesters actually went, logic also dictates that the further away from DC you get, the lower the percentage of people that share those views."

Damn the no edit function.

Sorry, kids got to going crazy, and I lost concentration.

That should have read "logic also dictates that the further away from DC you get, the lower the percentage showed up."

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2009 02:38 PM

Dozens of people showed up. Just ask MSNBC ...

Posted by: Jim at September 13, 2009 02:40 PM

Guess we'll just have to do it again, and bigger.

Posted by: megapotamus at September 13, 2009 02:58 PM

Lipiwitz channeling George III.

Posted by: RicardoVerde at September 13, 2009 03:25 PM
The DC fire department and law enforcement agencies estimate the crowd at 70,000.

The DC fire and police are forbidden from giving estimates. The accurate quote is "in excess of 75,000".

Which .5-1.5 million definitely is. And working Americans, not professional agitators. Pretty good turnout.

But go ahead and radicalize the group even more. Pretty soon we will have the likes of back to "fist in the air and head in the sand" where you belong.

Posted by: iconoclast at September 13, 2009 04:03 PM

The DC Fire Department is not in the busness of giving crowd estmates.

I repeat, look at the pictures. LOOK AT THE PICTURES! They don't lie.

The ablity of you lefties to lie about even the most obvious things never ceases to amaze me, and I've been watching it for decades.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 04:32 PM

>>"70,000 divided by 50 states equals 1400 protesters per state. Hope you're not planning on winning any elections with those incredibly dismal numbers. The message is you're still not a threat and we're still moving forward. "


The message, Lipshits, is that you are either an illiterate moron or shockingly dishonest. Although we can't rule out the possibility that you are both at once.

But if you are right then your pack of jackels will have no problem moving forward with their agenda. Let's see if that happens. My bet is that your precious government run health care is dead in the water.

Posted by: Steve at September 13, 2009 04:39 PM

FOXNEWS keeps saying tens of thousands.

Posted by: davod at September 13, 2009 05:02 PM

Dear Lefties,

Keep whistling past the graveyard. There were only two of us there, and Unicorns can fly.

2010 is right around the corner, and those Tea Partiers vote. We'll see whose right in a few months.

Posted by: Old Dad at September 13, 2009 06:14 PM
2010 is right around the corner, and those Tea Partiers vote. We'll see whose right in a few months.

But who to vote for? Most Republicans are scared of their own shadows. If there is no alternative, the Dims will continue their march to a socialist utopia...ok, a socialist dump

Posted by: iconoclast at September 13, 2009 09:01 PM

I was there, I moved around the crowd constantly, spoke to anyone who would speak with me.

As I entered the Capitol grounds, I asked a Capitol police officer if he knew how many people were there. He said 1.5 million. Take that for what it is worth.

Numbers don't really matter much to me. I never got the whole "let's count noses" thing. There was a lot of people there, and they were all not pleased with the government. One thing I thought was interesting was that the Gadsen flag was very popular. I'd say over half the flags there were Gadsen flags, the rest the Stars and Stripes, and a smattering of the state flags. Saw two San Jacinto flags, and one battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. I thought one of the coolest things was hearing better speeches from activist groups then from Congresscritters.

Posted by: Britt at September 13, 2009 11:47 PM


It was great being there with over a million people fighting to keep Obama and this democratic administration from socializing this country.

This is a good picture showing the incredible attendance that liberals are to pathetic and ignorant to accept:

http://twitcaps.com/search?q=%23912dc

CAN YOU HEAR US NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Baxter Greene at September 14, 2009 12:24 AM


Sorry,
This photo is not 9/12 march.
http://twitcaps.com/search?q=%23912dc

Posted by: Baxter Greene at September 14, 2009 12:47 AM

Baxter. The photos were discussed earlier in the thread. It was taken on 9/12.

Also, the national park service is saying that "It is a record.... We believe it is the largest event held in Washington, D.C., ever."

Posted by: Matt at September 14, 2009 08:09 AM

The media numbers (for believability) are out and explain the propaganda medias estimates.

The have lost any creditability they ever had, so will continue down the path of destruction, because they have no other choice. The must continue to support the far left with fingers in ears and say "Na Na Na Na Na".

I hope we can find a way to control the nut jobs in this administration, but the media is pretty much a dead issue. They no longer have credability or trust in this country, it is really bad when you have to listen and read stories in the EU media to find out about events in the USA.

Pathetic

Posted by: John at September 14, 2009 10:10 AM

You people really need to grow up,

Posted by: growup at September 14, 2009 12:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Moratorium The protest on October 16, 1969 was 600,000 strong. It was portrayed in "Forrest Gump" as a sideline. The pictures from then vs. now show almost the same population density that was seen back then. IF it was ONLY 70,000 people, the Mall would have shown some open areas. I tend to lean towards the bloggers on site. I can't say for sure, as I AM in Iraq, but from the pictures I've seen of it, plus reports from my Brother (a Fed Agent) that this was WAY more than the Mouthpiece Media is allowing.

Posted by: Big Country at September 14, 2009 02:54 PM

Baxter...some of those pictures were hilarious especially the mall crowd with the caption that said "EDITED PHOTO TO SHOW MORE PEOPLE ATTENDED, GOT CAUGHT AND THEN BLAMED THE DEMS FOR A SET UP". Who knew honesty could be so freakin' hilarious.

There are photos circulating on the right-wing blogs showing a massive crowd on Pennsylvania avenue. They are also circulating pictures with massive crowds on the mall that look strangely familiar to the crowds that were on the mall back in January. Some right-wing bloggers are claiming 2 million people on Penn Ave and some are claiming 2 million on the mall and Fox News said 400 million which means every single human being in America was there and we borrowed 100 million from other countries. Neat trick.

The DC Fire Department has confirmed about 60,000. FLOP!

The Grand Pooba Tea-Bagger herself, Michelle Malkin has a picture she has confirmed on her blog site that "yes, it's authentic nutroots". Apparently the Grand Pooba tea-bagger herself, Michelle Malkin didn't notice in the picture that the building that houses the Department of Indian Affairs isn't there. Well? They didn't build it yesterday!

You guys are soooo precious.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 14, 2009 07:28 PM

The actual number really isn't that important.

But Obama should remind himself that the next time all those folks come the DC, it's quite possible that they will all have pitch-forks .. and they won't be looking for any Wall Street types.

Posted by: Neo at September 14, 2009 09:09 PM

Well with numbers that low, you shouldn't have a problem getting enough pitch-forks.

And Obama and the rest of America that democratically elected President Obama through our constitutionally established process as presented by our patriot fore-fathers have more than enough armed personnel and weapons to accommodate your pitch-forks. I'm sure they will hold their own quite well against a fleet of black-hawks. Hell, we'll even give you an extra ten minutes so you can figure out which side of the pitch-fork you're supposed to be using.

It's time you pink-team pansies stop talking and suit up. Grab your guns and pitch-forks and bring it if you got the balls (in which you don't). The sooner the World's most powerful military can wipe these parasites off the planet, the sooner we can get back to doing adult stuff.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 15, 2009 02:21 AM