September 15, 2009
Snow Troll
I woke up this morning to find the following comment spammed across the comment sections of a dozen posts, regardless of subject matter:
Yes it is all the black people's fault. Let us kill all the black people. We should not have a black president.
The spammer hails from the IP of 99.233.2.165, which seems to trace to Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I cannot imagine why a Canadian is worried about having Barack Obama as his President, unless...
What if Barack has a Canadian birth certificate?
Snow Troll or Moby Canuck, the Great White Whale from the Great White North?
Posted by: Michael at September 15, 2009 09:04 AMMy God, that's brilliant! Those damned Canucks, should have suspected it all along!
And who the hell do they think the're fooling with their round "bacon," anyway? Like we can't tell it's really just ham!
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at September 15, 2009 10:06 AMTime to dust off the classic MST3K "Final Sacrifice" and whip up some anti-Canadian frenzy. A riot is an ugly thing...
And I think it's just about time that we had one!
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at September 15, 2009 10:10 AMIt's odd that the most obnoxious trolls and mobys you encounter on American political blogs are so frequently Candadian. I've noticed this going on for several years now.
This guy was a moby, not a troll.
Posted by: Steve at September 15, 2009 10:21 AMI visited Canada in the 60's and found that they preched a good sermon but were more racist than us in the south.
Posted by: David at September 15, 2009 11:05 AMMaybe there's no straw man/sarcasm arguement to his comments.
He's simply giving us a good solid example of what Canadians/Liberals intend to do. Just read his statement straight up.
Posted by: brando at September 15, 2009 11:12 AMOdds are that this type of behavior goes against his user agreement with his ISP. If you want to report abusive members send an email to ipmanage@rogers.wave.ca. Odds are after one or two emails they will shut down his service.
Posted by: Matt at September 15, 2009 11:47 AMI haven't bothered to look up the IP addresses but apparently something similar happened in one of Ann Althouse's posts yesterday.
It wasn't spammed across multiple posts but it was rather similar in nature.
Posted by: john at September 15, 2009 01:20 PMSteve, I'd say the moby/troll definition depends upon whether he thought he was mocking conservative attitudes or expected to be taken at face value. But isn't it interesting that the most egregious comments on right of center blogs come from mobies? You'd think some actual RWDBs would be yammering about racist fascist hate without needing these people to prime the pump. Furthermore, I have never seen the tactic provoke anything but instant condemnation. We racist fascists are pretty canny, huh?
But this tactic is, sad to say, a Canadian tradition of late. If you've followed the Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant case you'd know that the Canadian Human Rights commission has more Nazi posters on the 'net than there are actual Nazis in Canada.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at September 15, 2009 01:50 PMI second the advice to report the behavior.
Posted by: Foxfier at September 15, 2009 01:51 PMThat was a terrible missed attempt at sarcasm. I wanted to stir up things a bit on the blog and see the kind of reaction I get from regular posters.
Have to admit that I am impressed all the responses were sensible, calm and not at all racist. You would be surprised by some of the things I have read online recently from both right and left wing blogs/forums.
The choice of words may have been a bit extreme, but having seen your post about the president below I made a wrong assumption that your blog might have a racist leaning towards it. By the way, I am a black Non-Canadian conservative.
Posted by: A at September 15, 2009 03:10 PMDon't you mean that you're a "Concerned Christian"?
"You would be surprised by some of the things I have read online recently"
I bet I wouldn't be surprised. It couldn't be any worse than someone saying that they would like to literally kill all the black people in the world.
"I wanted to stir up things a bit"
Nah. You wanted to flatly state your position, and I disagree with your position. I'll quote you though.
Posted by: brando at September 15, 2009 04:55 PM@Brando, as stated, I am black myself
Posted by: A at September 15, 2009 04:59 PM>>"By the way, I am a black Non-Canadian conservative."
Sure you are. And I'm black non-Canadian liberal who thinks you are lying.
>>'I am impressed all the responses were sensible, calm and not at all racist."
And you still impress me as one of the dumbest lefties I've seen in a long time.
>>"having seen your post about the president below I made a wrong assumption that your blog might have a racist leaning towards it."
Yeah, I can see why a post which is any way critical of Obama would be disturbing to you.
>>"as stated, I am black myself"
Given that you hide your IP address and your email address, what makes you think that anybody would believe anything you say? The one thng we know about you for certain is that you are a liar.
Even if you are black, your skin is not a magic escape card which excuses you from wrongdoing. A black conservative would understand this.
Posted by: Steve at September 15, 2009 05:16 PMHey, "A", I see you were doing the exact same crap at Althouses blog yesterday. She has a post up on it. You must be so proud to get all this attention.
Posted by: Steve at September 15, 2009 05:25 PM@Steve - no, being black does not give me a magic escape card, but it would certainly not make me want to *seriously* call out for the killing of black folks (of which I am part).
Anyways, in retrospect, my comments were very ill-advised. I posted them when I was very emotional and also sleep deprived. I was watching something on TV that really offended me and got me fired up. Went online to search for something and came across this site (Google racist in chief).
My apologies to C. Y. and all forum members.
Posted by: A at September 15, 2009 05:25 PMAnd you posted the same crap at Ann Alhouses' blog? Wow, you're really sleep deprived all right. I'd still report to to the Secret Service.
At which point we'll find out you work for Acorn, Mr Conservative.
I was just wondering, Bob. Is it legal to publish a user's IP address? Could someone claim invasion of privacy? I did essentially the same thing on a Delphi Forum, and I was accused of betraying personal information. The person was an uninvited troll who took information from the Delphi Forum, copied it and published it in a local newspaper Opinion Section without the permission of the original authors.
Posted by: Jerry Haberer at September 15, 2009 05:56 PM>>"I was just wondering, Bob. Is it legal to publish a user's IP address? Could someone claim invasion of privacy?"
Not unless you think it is illegal to publish any other information about somebody, such as their phone number or address. Which it is not. And this particular person, who claims to have acted on implulse, was using an anonymizer.
I did not post anything on Althouse (or elsewhere). I had to go to Althouse's blog to see what you were referring to, and I just read about the whole thing like right now.
Posted by: A at September 15, 2009 06:05 PMGiven your record of dishonesty, why should anybody believe you about anything?
Posted by: Steve at September 15, 2009 06:40 PMAs a Canadian, I disown that twit.
You people have enough to worry about without some self importnat maggot, from up, here jerking your chain
Posted by: robins111 at September 15, 2009 07:44 PMAt least Canada has honest tea-baggers saying what they really want to say unlike here in America.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 15, 2009 08:44 PMAnd the Canadian is trolling for the same reasons why other people from other countries troll our blog sites...WE'RE A FREAKIN' JOKE TO THEM!!!
Can you imagine how funny it must have been to people from other countries watching a bunch of rednecks dressed like demented Muppets roaming around Washington on Saturday with misspelled signs spewing paranoid gibberish. I still can't stop laughing and I freakin' live here.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 15, 2009 08:56 PMMaking it illegal to publish someone's IP would be functionally the same as making it illegal to publish the number of someone who has called you.
For that matter, some message boards show the poster's IP address by default... Blizz's use to....
For some stupid reason, though, Jerry, a LOT of unprintables like to claim that sharing an IP address is illegal. (Can be breach of contract if the user agreements says that you won't, but that's it.)
Posted by: Foxfier at September 15, 2009 09:02 PMI've been sleep deprived before, but I've never called for the death of around a billion people including myself.
That must be some kind of whacked out sleep dept.
Posted by: brando at September 15, 2009 09:56 PM>>"And the Canadian is trolling for the same reasons why other people from other countries troll our blog sites...WE'RE A FREAKIN' JOKE TO THEM!!!"
You're the joke to them, Lipshits. And to us. I read these comments to see what inane babble you'll come up with next.
That actually is the most likely scenerio. Babymama who hails from Seattle and was scheduled to go to college in Seattle after Baraka was born perhaps went to Vancouver for some sightseeing and Baraka popped out unexpectedly, then babymama returned to Hawaii. At that time an oral declaration of citizenship was all that was needed to cross the border with Canada. Back in Hawaii, babymama obtained a birth cert from Hawaii based on her residency not on where Baraka was born, as allowed by Hawaii law. A very real possibility.
Posted by: Federale at September 16, 2009 06:22 PM