November 07, 2009
The "Cop Killer" FN Five-seveN
The media is wasting very little time informing us that the weapon used by Major Nidal Malik Hasan in his rampage at Fort Hood was a "cop killer."
Ft. Hood terrorist used a cop killer FN-Five Seven tactical pistol—20 round clip -- Examiner
'Cop Killer" Gun though to Be Used in Ft. Hood Shooting, Offiicals Said -- ABC News
Fort Hood shootings: gunman used 'cop killer' weapon in massacre at US Army base -- UK Telegraph
Ironically, there is no known record of that weapon even being used to kill a police officer in the United States, and there is a distinct possibility that Sgt. Kimberly Munley, wounded while engaging Hasan, may have been the first American law enforcement officer ever shot with a Five-seveN.
How did the Five-seveN get it's "cop killer" reputation, then?
It was created in a Brady Campaign press release in February of 2005.
Cop killer? at a $1000 a pop no self respecting gangsta can afford one.
Posted by: Jim at November 7, 2009 10:24 PMhttp://www.fnhusa1.com/PDF/5.7_Brochure.pdf
Over the past months the Five-seveN pistol has been the subject of misleading allegations. These allegations are misinforming the public in the United States and elsewhere. In this context FNH USA has issued this fact sheet.
Among other things, the Five-seveN pistol has been mischaracterized by some as a new firearm which shoots armor-piercing ammunition. To be clear: armor piercing ammunition can be shot from any firearm; however, such ammunition has been illegal for commercial sale since 1986 and is only available to law enforcement and military. In this context, ALL FNH USA law enforcement and military ammunition is sold via a secure Customs Bonded Warehouse which delivers directly to the customers after due approval by BATFE.
FNH USA is a responsible and law abiding firearms company conducting business in the United States that does not and cannot sell armor-piercing ammunition on the commercial market. There are no exceptions to this federal prohibition. The only FN 5.7x28mm ammunition available to civilians has been specifically declared by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to be non-armor-piercing.
MAJ Hasan, Medical Corps, Darnell Army Medical Center, would have had no more access to SS190 5.7 x 28mm full metal jacket ball than you or I.
there you all go again with those silly little "fact" thingies..... like that can stop teh narrative.
you fools!
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 8, 2009 04:38 AMIf this had happened with an M-16, would they now be shouting about evil assault rifles?
Posted by: SouthernRoots at November 8, 2009 01:11 PMI am always amazed at the concept of "cop killer". Cops have one of the safest of occupations. The concept of danger is one that they foster, not an actual fact. The reason this bothers me is that cops use the concept of their safety to rob you of rights. They are allowed to use unnecessary force in confronting any individual on the basis that they need to protect themselves. We need to put an end to this concept. I have seen too many law abiding people beat up and killed by cops over the recent years and the reason that they give is their own protection.
Posted by: David at November 8, 2009 01:11 PM
Anti-gunners claim that civilians don't need handguns because they're dangerous and they should only be available to qualified law enforcement and military personnel.
Question of the Day: What happens to the validity of the above argument when policemen and troops start shooting at each other?
Posted by: MarkJ at November 9, 2009 07:47 AM"If this had happened with an M-16, would they now be shouting about evil assault rifles?"
When do they ever stop bitching about assault rifles?
Posted by: Brian Macker at November 9, 2009 08:35 AMFWIW, I suspect the damage would have been greater had the bastard used a .45.
Posted by: Murdoc at November 9, 2009 09:38 AMIt seems the media, like those of the left would rather disarm the people and keep them in the dark. Far safer to suck up to the powers that be, than face the anger of those you have belittled and betrayed.
Posted by: Rock at November 9, 2009 11:22 AMAnd you'll notice there's no mention of the mass murder occurring, ONCE AGAIN, in those oh-so-safe "gun free" zones.
Posted by: John at November 9, 2009 01:11 PMEarly this morning I heard a CBS reporter describe Hasan's weapon as a "laser-guided high-powered pistol".
Where does one acquire such a piece?
Laser guided high power pistols?? I guess that playing too much Halo and reading too much science fiction books can do that to this reporter or just a plain anti-gun idiot who is a member of the media spouting nonsense.
Posted by: Will at November 9, 2009 02:55 PMWell thank God he didnt have a belt fed LAWs rocket launcher. Who knows what the media would have done then.
Posted by: capt26thga at November 9, 2009 07:54 PMDavid, there is much to what you say. What danger cops do face statistically is mostly car accidents, like the rest of us. Policeophilia is definitely an arrow in the quiver of the statists. Something like that obtains for firefighters too but impacts our wallets more than our rights. I had thought that the P90 fired 5.56. Live and learn. They fire an even less potent round? What desire I might have had to get one is gone. With these S Korean M1 carbs coming home the pop gun is obsolete for the home front.
Posted by: megapotamus at November 10, 2009 06:07 AM