July 02, 2010
Dull Steele
A new RNC Chair: now that's change i can believe in.
"Keep in mind again, federal candidates, this was a war of Obama's choosing. This was not something that the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in," he said. "But it was the president who was trying to be cute by half by building a script demonizing Iraq, while saying the battle really should be in Afghanistan. Well, if he is such a student of history, has he not understood that you know that's the one thing you don't do, is engage in a land war in Afghanistan?"
We don't need a Chairman that gets his war advice from The Princess Bride.
"Fool!" cried the hunchback. "You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia,' but only slightly less well known is this: 'Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.'"
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: Stoutcat at July 2, 2010 12:42 PMand Sarah Palin should be that change, Steele has to go...
Posted by: dgj at July 2, 2010 01:29 PMI am not sure what he was trying to say, but I have to agree with him on Afghanistan. We are following in the historical footsteps of every country that has tried to fight there. And we are losing, just like every country before. The nature of the ground there is such that a handfull of people can do a considerable amount of harm to even the most sophisticated military. When you add that to the idiotic ROE that we have adopted, then you have a reciepe for disaster.
Since everything that Obama touches turns to crap, then lets get out while the getten is good. As to the terrorist, they are over here now that The One has decided to allow every illegal in the world into the country undocumented. Whey would they be in Afghanistan, when they can come here, cross the Mexican border, be assured no one will stop them or ask for papers, obtain housing, food and education from the government?
Posted by: David at July 2, 2010 03:58 PMworse...that line was added by Meathead. It is not in the book. He is getting his war advice from a pinko hollywood director.
Posted by: JP at July 2, 2010 04:11 PMDavid's right. I am no fan of Steele, but objectively, there's nothing erroneous about what he said.
Posted by: dad29 at July 3, 2010 08:17 AM"Nothing erroneous"? Much as I dislike the man, even I'm not so far gone as to have forgotten that he had nothing to do with getting us involved in Afghanistan. He's mis-managed it of course, but blaming him for our being there in the first place is ridiculous!
Posted by: Jason Bontrager at July 3, 2010 08:50 AM"It's the truth of course". David I'll bet you are not married or even dating with that truth all the time crap. Dad29 many things can be said that are not erroneous but do not need to be said. Try that philosophy on your wife next time she asks your opinion on her weight. Have you ever played poker? I'll bet not because everything in life is poker and the truth needs to be used only when absolutely necessary. Afghanistan is a mess but you don't broadcast to the opponet that you must get out as soon as possible and that it was a huge mistake to go there in the first place. Life is a little more complicated than that and requires a little more thought than you seem to be able to muster.
Posted by: inspectorudy at July 3, 2010 10:31 AMC'mon folks, be honest , he got the job because he is mostly black, just like Barak hussein , and at the time his skin color mattered more than his brain power or ethics/morality/honesty/etc.
He is a sham of a man, but he is black.
Posted by: duncan at July 3, 2010 08:43 PMPosted by duncan at July 3, 2010 08:43 PM
Well, well, well. We have another moby here attempting to tease out some racist remark. You guys are getting pretty transparent.
Posted by: iconoclast at July 3, 2010 08:59 PMI was defending him completely up until Scozzafava... Florida with Crist didn't help either. These people to me made it look like he doesn't know what he's doing- and the "white guys are scared of me" is for the birds... there's nothing scary about this guy save the fact he can't read people and seems a bit to occupied with racial theories for my taste.
He seems like an ill-conceived, fashionable and supposedly pragmatic choice in the wake of Obama's election- it's really not working out
I'm ALL about party unity going into the fall, and preach it incessantly; but what's up with his apologizing for being conservative? He needs to study the life and wisdom of The Gipper, man- you didn't see him meekly apologizing for being right
He seems like a decent guy, really- but not focussed on what he should be, obviously
Enjoy your 4th... a 4 mo all out political war for the future of this country starts Tuesday
Posted by: Reaganite Republican at July 4, 2010 07:53 AMGoldman wrote both the book and the screenplay, so it's his line regardless. Anyway, life *is* pain and anyone who says otherwise *is* selling something.
Posted by: Mike Schilling at July 4, 2010 10:56 PMhe [Obama] had nothing to do with getting us involved in Afghanistan
Yes--but if you read the entire transcript you find that Steele's remarks are accurate.
Bear in mind that I have no love for Steele--to me, he's just another (R) politician/disappointment.
What Steele refers to is Obama's campaign statements where he tried to split the baby, calling Iraq a "bad" war and Afghan'n a "good" war.
That way, Bammy could both appease the anti-war Left AND the anti-OsamaBinLadin Right.
Metaphorically, Bammy tried to straddle that fence and is now suffering some pain in the......ahhhh....crotch, and Steele is having schadenfreude over that problem.
Posted by: dad29 at July 5, 2010 08:02 AMIconoclast, I am no moby and I thorougly endorse that fellows characterization of the facts. Of course Steele ascended to his position chiefly because of his race. This is a mistake when Dems do it and equally a mistake when Reps do it. From the phraseology though, it does seem that you have spotted a moby operator.
Posted by: megapotamus at July 5, 2010 01:37 PM