July 08, 2010

Predictable: Leftists Wet Themselves Over LA Guns In Church Law

Louisiana's Bobby Jindal signed a law allowing guns in church... and the law seems a bit absurd:

Burns' bill would authorize persons who qualified to carry concealed weapons having passed the training and background checks to bring them to churches, mosques, synagogues or other houses of worship as part of a security force.

The pastor or head of the religious institution must announce verbally or in weekly newsletters or bulletins that there will be individuals armed on the property as members of he security force. Those chosen have to undergo eight hours of tactical training each year.

There is no federal law against carrying guns in church.

In many states there are few if any restrictions regarding legally concealed handguns in church, or for that matter, openly carried firearms, though doing so might earn you some odd looks.

The odd and chaffing bit of this law is that Louisianans carrying weapons must be part of some known security force, and that the church must broadcast such information to church members in every weekly bulletin... perhaps so so timid soul doesn't get the vapors upon seeing a bulge in the pastor's pocket (Yes, pastors carry concealed carry weapons too).

As you may have been able to predict, the typically law-ignorant left is freaked out over the the law, obviously unaware that the law is hardly unique except in it's oddly restrictive requirements.

They apparently think—or prefer— that the right to self protection ends for the faithful at the church door.

Even more sadly, they desperately cling to their own impulsive insecurities and stereotypes. They are apparently still firmly convinced that the mere possession of a firearm will cause someone to go in to an uncontrollable, homicidal rage:

If you're like most Americans, there's probably been a time in your life when you've been sitting in church, listening to a particularly ennui-inducing homily or enduring another warbly version of "Holy Holy Holy" and thought, "Man! I could really reach for some steel right now, squeeze off a few rounds, and let these fools know what the score is!"

The author of this screed should obviously be kept far away from all firearms, at all times. Responsible citizens, however, are ill served by poorly written and overly-restrictive laws.

Update: Don Surber has another take, calling the the signed bill "the ultimate law to freak out liberals."

Posted by Confederate Yankee at July 8, 2010 10:32 AM

I know what you mean, with only 4 states now banning firearms in a place of worship, their must be daily shootouts in the other 44 states (2 states don't allow carry at all).

Where is all the blood in the aisles?

Posted by: MattK at July 8, 2010 10:52 AM

Churches may one day have to consider having armed volunteers, given the level of crazed hatred being exhibited by many on the loony left toward believers. Back in 2007 there were a number of assaults on Colorado churchgoers, culminating in an incident in which a female armed volunteer deep-sixed an attacker.

Posted by: Spartan79 at July 8, 2010 11:47 AM

Spatan, you may recall some church shootings in Colorado a while back. The lady who stopped the shooter was a volunteer guard for the church and was packing heat at the time.
Banning guns from places works every time....for the killers.
Texas used to ban them from restaurants, and then one day a guy walked into a Luby's and started firing.
One lady, now a state legislator, said all she could think about was "If my gun wasn't out in the car, I could stop this".
She was the person who introduced the repeal of the stupid ban.

Posted by: JP at July 8, 2010 12:02 PM

Leftists against LA GUNS? Will you still at least buy our records?

Posted by: Tracii Guns at July 8, 2010 12:20 PM

It's never enough for you, is it? What kind of dude is named Tracii anyway?

Posted by: Axel Rose at July 8, 2010 02:36 PM

My problem with this is the eight hours a year of "tactical training"??

Which reinforces the "security force" aspect.

In other words, the ONLY way you can carry a gun in church is TO BE A PART of a security force that has official training.

Now, what kinds of organizations can you think of that support armed guards?

Black Panthers? hmmm?

Posted by: captainfish at July 8, 2010 04:27 PM

I used to have a gun control mindset, but these days I've become convinced that you guys simply cannot feel at ease walking around in public unless you are armed. I've never personally feared for my life sitting in church -- I have feared for my sanity during some particularly long sermons -- but if you need to be armed to feel safe so be it.

Posted by: Jim at July 8, 2010 05:07 PM

I haven't been in church for awhile but as I understand it, due to laws against carrying on school property, if the church has a school you have to arrange to be a volunteer security guard in order to carry legally.

I've long thought these laws are silly. I'm recognized as responsible enough to carry a firearm, except when I step over here?

Posted by: Mark at July 8, 2010 09:21 PM

This is, of course, childishly irrational, as liberals tend to be.

They imagine all these terrible scenarios which are the products of their own overheated imaginations. There was a movie, Forbidden Planet, where almost the entire population of a planet had been wiped out by "monsters from the id." That is, by monsters created by their own evil minds.

In my view, libs are afraid of their own violent tendencies, which they cannot admit to themselves, so they project them onto us evil gun owners.

Posted by: Bill Smith at July 8, 2010 10:27 PM

Shortly after those shootings in Colorado, a friend was approached by his pastor who asked him, knowing he was active in shooting sports, if he carried concealed in church. The friend said he found himself taking a moment to answer, then replied in the affirmative. The pastor said, "Good." [I spend part of the year in Ohio: you have to get permission to carry in church...]

Posted by: OldeForce at July 9, 2010 12:17 AM

Laws making it the default to forbid carrying firearms in a church where carrying is permitted in most other circumstances strike me as dangerously close to an establishment of religion in the sense that the Founders would understand it. Some denominations might like the ruling, but other denominations most assuredly would not. Privileging one denomination with respect to another is precisely what the establishment of religion clause was intended to prevent.

Posted by: David at July 9, 2010 11:25 AM