October 06, 2011
A Hilariously Unscientific Poll
Consider this scenario: You have been told, at least five weeks in a row, by memo—memos it is your job to read and act upon—that something very wrong is happening. You do nothing, and things blow up in everyone's face. The boss asks you about it, and you tell him that you have no idea what's going on; you only found out about it when things blew up. He says: "Oh, OK then."
Right. How about if you say: "Oh, I didn't understand your question." Or "I was responding to another question about some other context." How about: "Memos? What memos? I never saw any memos." Or better yet: "Memos? I don't read memos!"
Q: What is the chance of keeping your job:
A) Zero
B) Zip
C) Less than nothing
D) Hahahahahahahahaha—gasp---hahahahaha! Keep your job?! Hahahahaha…
Comes now Tina Korbe at Hot Air who writes:
"It was never a comforting thought to think the Attorney General just can’t be bothered to read his weekly briefings, but it was at least plausible to think Eric Holder overlooked one or two memos about the pernicious and fatal Fast and Furious program. But make that five memos and the AG’s incompetence and negligence appear especially gross:
Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious. The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center.
The Attorney General told Issa during a House Judiciary Committee in May 2011 that he had just learned of Fast and Furious a few weeks before. Yet, on January 31, in a previously scheduled meeting, Grassley personally handed him two letters about Fast and Furious. Grassley and Issa said they find it very troubling that Holder actually knew of Operation Fast and Furious much earlier, and in greater detail than he ever let on.
The memos specifically said that the straw buyers were 'responsible for the purchase of 1500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels.'”
Mr. Obama also weighed in at a press conference on Thursday:
"I think both Holder and I would have been very unhappy if someone had suggested that guns were allowed to pass through that could have been prevented by the United States of America."
So we now know:
1) Senator Chuck Grassley, on January 31, gave AG Holder specific information about Fast and furious.
2) Holder received at least five weekly briefings, very specific briefings, about the case beginning in July 2010.
3) In May of 2011, Holder told Rep. Daryl Issa in a congressional hearing, under oath, that he heard of the case only a few weeks earlier.
I'll give Ms. Korbe the benefit of the doubt and literary license for understatement. Is it plausible that Mr. Holder missed a memo or two? It's plausible. However, let's consider that Mr. Holder is a man intimately involved in an Administration famous of power mongering, ignoring the law, and micromanagement. Let's further consider his absolutely mind-blowing, bald-faced lying regarding his role in securing a pardon for Marc Rich. Incompetence? Negligence? Certainly, but that doesn't account for what now appears to be absolute proof that Mr. Holder was lying under oath.
I caught Lanny Davis, former Clinton lawyer and Democrat apologist on the O'Reilly Factor last night. He suggested—and this with a straight face—that Holder has no reason to lie. Well, apart from the fact that he may be implicated in multiple federal crimes including conspiracy, murder, treason, terrorism, etc., I'd have to agree with Mr. Davis. Yup. No reason to lie at all.
Gentle readers, let's hear from you. What do you say about these three questions:
1) Is AG Holder lying?
2) Is Mr. Obama involved (and lying)?
3) Did they push Gunwalker to build support for anti-gun policies they couldn't obtain through the Congress?
Holder lies often, and he has committed perjury.
Obama tells the truth only when it sounds better than the first few lies he can imagine.
Obama and Holder have conspired to break the law,
in furtherance of the Left's agenda, and Obama
and his masters are conspiring to subvert the
rule of law and Constitutional government.
1) Holder is assuredly lying.
2) If Obama's mouth is open he's lying; if it's closed, he's thinking about how best to spin something (i.e., formulating a lie)
3) Yes
Lose my job? Yeah, and probably by sued to cover the companies losses and face criminal charges (depending on my role and the decisions) for failure to fulfill fidiciary duties etc.
Posted by: styrgwillidar at October 7, 2011 09:39 AMIt is absolutely not credible that government bureaucrats running a program like this wouldn't have gotten their superiors approval before embarking on it. Too different, too risky, anything going wrong and they would have been toast. No way they didn't get top cover. Now, that's for just one operation.
But there were ~10 operations like this. Are we really expected to believe that operations this far out of the box just happened to be started by ~10 different field offices at approximately the same time. And that none of those offices informed their higher ups. Doesn't pass the smell test.
Posted by: styrgwillidar at October 7, 2011 09:44 AMI think that Holder and the Obama administration will ignore this scandal and continue to defy Congress. After all, what could happen? Congress has no way to punish Holder other than impeaching him. And as long as the Senate resides in the paws of Democrats that will never happen.
The only real solution is to vote in a new Senate and Administration.
Posted by: iconoclast at October 8, 2011 11:14 PMIf I was Holders boss, I would be wondering what else was in those memos, he "didnt know about"
Posted by: Web at October 10, 2011 03:07 PMThe reason Obama wants this jobs bill to go through is the money is going to an off shore account. Obama and friends will leave under cover of night. They will then party their butts off and laugh about how gullible the MSM was to Obama's games. Fast and furious was just a toe in the water to see what they might get away with.
Posted by: Mike at October 10, 2011 11:12 PM