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August 22, 2009

MoveOn.Org, SEIU, ACORN To Infiltrate/Disrupt Recess Protests

As you may know, there are currently recess protests in all 435 Congressional districts, for the majority of American citizens that oppose the government-run health insurance.

MoveOn-Org, SEIU union thugs, and ACORN members are moving to infiltrate and disrupt these events.

Here is a copy of an MoveOn.org email promising a "hearty welcome" to the majority of who don't want Obamacare rammed down their throats.

Counter-protesting is perfectly acceptable and encouraged, as it should be.

But I have a contact who claims to have seen unofficial communications from ACORN, SEIU, and MoveOn.Org members not to just protest for the government option, but it infiltrate the anti-government protesters and attempt to stir up trouble. Precisely what kind of trouble was not specified, and was no doubt communicated verbally.

Keep your eyes open folks, and don't allow yourselves to be provoked. Also, keep an eye on the more excitable and antagonistic folks protesting Obamacare.

If they're acting provocatively in front of news crews or private video cameras, they may not be on your side at all.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at August 22, 2009 12:20 PM
Comments

The most important hint? Keep your cool; Document and photograph everything and have someone assigned to the unused parking lots a couple of blocks from the demonstration site to record and document the imported trouble makers. I wouldn't try to get up "in their faces" (the way the president has encouraged his thugs to act). Use the zoom lens and remember to get a pic of the license plates and any other markings on buses and/or vans. At the first sign of trouble, notify the POLICE. Don't get suckered into a physical confrontation; that's exactly the kind of action the MSM is looking to record and report and it instantly defeats the purpose.

Posted by: Dell at August 22, 2009 01:08 PM

Just attended a SoCal town hall at which the counterprotest was outnumbered by about 10 to 1. One minor confrontation that consisted of two people yelling at each other for about 30 seconds. Other than that, it was a tame and mostly civil affair. I bring this up because the SEIU was supposedly sending busses of their people in, but nothing ever materialized.

Posted by: LaurieK at August 22, 2009 02:38 PM

I got an email from HCAN for one of Obama's townhalls that wasn't to be announced until later. You have to RSVP and he wants supporters to RSVP before the public gets an announcement so it will be filled with his supporters. They also take suggestions from HCAN members for what questions to ask him. You can bet I gave him a hard one. I asked about how he plans to lower costs for people and the street and insurance companies if he plans on making the government pay doctors less and force every non government customer to pick up the difference. I regret not asking about malpractice reform as well.

If you want to get into these town halls sign your email up for all these counter groups email lists. you get early notifications and direct instructions that you opposition will have.

Posted by: James at August 22, 2009 02:56 PM

What's even more funny is that these hard lefties are trying to put together a September 13th protest. Yeah, the same Sept 13 that is the first Sunday of the football season. They'll be wondering why the attendance is so poor.

Posted by: William Teach at August 22, 2009 03:49 PM

Aww, let the smelly hippies and union thugs have one last day in the sun. Take pictures. Your grandkids will wonder who these counter protesters were.

Well junior, these are crazy people.

Posted by: Old Dad at August 22, 2009 03:56 PM

I must disagree with Dell, and with what is implied by CY. If a physical confrontation seems likely, don't bother notifying the police; that the leftypig goons are willing to take it physical means that the local fuzz are in the Obamists' pockets. They'll stand around idly and crack jokes whilst the goons beat up protestors in front of them (and the MSM's cameras will be pointed away).

I do endorse his recommendation to document and record everything (that includes policemen's faces and badge numbers). I also must reluctantly say, that whilst we should start no brawls, we must be prepared to end them.

Posted by: Akatsukami at August 22, 2009 04:39 PM

Be careful all these organization are paid for by Soro's money. He is stimulating the economy by bringing all his brownshirts sheeple to protests. They get paid 500dollar a week to protest.

Posted by: myna at August 22, 2009 04:46 PM

Video cameras, video cameras, video cameras.

There are a lot of cheap, decent video cameras out there now. If you can afford one, get it.

Video EVERYTHING you legally can at these public events.

Try to find ways to use the camera that aren't obvious. For example, some of these cameras are small enough to easily fit in a shirt pocket. Try to wear a vest or something with an opening for the camera lens. etc...

Posted by: Les Nessman at August 22, 2009 04:48 PM

@Akatsukami. It's not the local cops who might be in Obama's pocket, it's their management. They won't be the ones standing on the street corners.

If you see a fight in progress, it will be far more effective to videotape it and put it up on YouTube than to intervene. It will be even more effective if the good guys get the s**t kicked out of them.

It's best to ignore the MSM completely. They've already made themselves irrelevant.

Posted by: Pink Pig at August 22, 2009 04:55 PM

There was one today, in Maine, at Chellie Pingree's office on Exchange St. in Portland. The liberty-loving were outnumbered ten-to-one by the paid Obamatrons. It was sad really. The collectivists were out in full force, with their professional organizers and printed signs. They even had a maggot that would sneak up behind you and try to race bait, wispering "that Obama is a real dirty N***ER, isnt' he?!" before he would slither back to the open sore whence he came. THIS broke my heart.

Posted by: anon at August 22, 2009 04:55 PM

You mean like these two guys who kicked Kostric in the groin and then spit in the camera?

Watch the second part... they have no compunction about doing this but when they see the piece on his leg, move on quickly.

/watch?v=3sCqC6cdxgU


Posted by: NH at August 22, 2009 05:00 PM

Keep cool and record, then post to here and Pajamas Media, etc.

Posted by: Minerva at August 22, 2009 05:15 PM

If you plan to record the event, make sure your camera has a wrist strap or similar tether. You may get "jostled" by an SEIU and/or ACORN operative and the strap may prevent damage/loss. Just a thought...

Posted by: Attila at August 22, 2009 05:41 PM

The protesters from the organized groups did show up at Rep Gordon's office in Murfreesboro, TN. They made sure they were in front of the cameras and stated they were Republicans for the Govt option. So folks, it is happening.

Posted by: Pete at August 22, 2009 06:01 PM

I saw this stupid idea on the web, and I thought everyone would get a chuckle out of it. Instead of waving signs and trying to get on the TV, someone suggested - get this! - finding someone who's smart to engage in an impromptu debate with a politician in order to show how that politician is wrong.

I patiently explained to that person that waving signs and warning about what a friend of a friend of a friend said SEIU said someone said is more effective than actually showing how a politician can't think things through.

Some people!

Posted by: Another bad idea at August 22, 2009 06:12 PM

Don't worry. If the TEA Party/health care protesters don't allow themselves to become provoked, the left-wing thugs/agent provocateurs will initiate the violence and then blame it on the right.

I'd make a bet on it, but it'd be like taking candy from a baby. Call it a bar bet, if you will.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 22, 2009 06:21 PM

Print that email and take it with you to any tea party, protest, or town hall.

If someone starts "acting up" in a way meant to embarrass our side....show the email to the media. Disown the infiltrator.

Posted by: jeanneb at August 22, 2009 06:40 PM

Keep an eye out for signs that are racist in nature or promote some kind of conspiracy theory. The Kos Kids just love that sort of thing and I wouldn't put it past those moveon *ssh*l*s to make outrageous signs to put our cause in a bad light.

Posted by: Ogre at August 22, 2009 07:25 PM

At today's (8/22) protest in Pleasanton, CA at U.S. Congressman Jerry McNerney's office there were no SEIU or Organizing for Obama folks. But, last Friday at Barbara Boxer's book signing in a nearby town (she was shilling her novel, but has refused to hold town halls) there were about 25 pro Obamacare people to about 150 of us normal people. Many had professionally printed signs - they did "infiltrate" our group instead of forming their own coalition on the opposite side of the street which provoked a lot of ill will, but no violence.

I expected the opposition to show up at the McNerney event, he's very liberal but either they don't have as much love for McNerney as they do for Boxer, or they're up to something else.

Posted by: Jayne at August 22, 2009 07:36 PM
The protesters from the organized groups did show up at Rep Gordon's office in Murfreesboro, TN. They made sure they were in front of the cameras and stated they were Republicans for the Govt option. So folks, it is happening. Posted by Pete at August 22, 2009 06:01 PM

Are you suggesting that there's no possibility that there might be SOME Republicans who actually DO support the public option? If that is your belief, you're mistaken.

.....there were about 25 pro Obamacare people to about 150 of us normal people.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions, Jayne. In the parallel universe in which you live, the only normal people are those who agree with you and your position.

I have some alarming news for you, madame. There are normal people on both sides of this issue, and most other issues as well. Talk about arrogant! People with your attitude don't have much to offer in the way of civil discourse.

That's OK. At least your delusions are entertaining to people who really are normal, both those who support a Government Option and those who don't.

Posted by: Dude at August 23, 2009 12:53 AM

Don't worry, the Democrats are simply too stupid to pull this off. They're going to pay seven dollars an hour, and they're going to get a seven dollar an hour job for their money. They[re going to show up late and leave early. They're going to say "yes we can." Hooray. Then they're going to look at their watches and leave.

And if someone starts hassling you, start videotaping his ass. Don't say anything to him, and don't stop taking his picture until he leaves. If he lays a finger on you, get whomever you're with to call 911 and ask others in the crowd to find a police officer.

Posted by: peter jackson at August 23, 2009 02:17 AM

Posted by: Dude at August 23, 2009 12:53 AM

"Are you suggesting that there's no possibility that there might be SOME Republicans who actually DO support the public option?"

Yes

"If that is your belief, you're mistaken."

No

Posted by: thomass at August 23, 2009 05:21 AM

"that the leftypig goons are willing to take it physical means that the local fuzz are in the Obamists' pockets."

...Somebody needs his tinfoil hat adjusted.

Posted by: Doc Washboard at August 23, 2009 07:06 PM
...Somebody needs his tinfoil hat adjusted.

HELLO!!! and.........AMEN!!!

Posted by: Dude at August 23, 2009 09:14 PM

ACORN thugs bringing guns to Recess Rallies! This was taken outside Harry Mitchell's office in Scottsdale AZ yesterday, and I was there to witness it! The guy was a New Yorker, not part of Mitchell's district!

http://api.ning.com/files/45yBp4MH-Td6SNk1vttQslZXu-swCuOPL-IliMOpJWxI*Ujc8-D5vHemwVSgFMcPxL0G8MDQy2s4kfmQRIcD0cBGKtftTIGu/DSC_6288.jpg

MSDNC story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32525040/ns/local_news-phoenix_az/

"Except for one counterprotester, apparently the only one within shouting distance. The man would only give his first name as he stood alone, wearing a Yankee baseball team shirt, a handgun on his hip, holding a contrary sign."

Posted by: cousin-merle at August 23, 2009 10:45 PM

The tactics are being used. In St Louis, counter protestors in two locations tried to engage Tea Party folks, baiting them and then running to police officers to try and create a scene.

At one, the officers laughed, but at the other, an anonymous call of a fight by 10 people brought out the local law enforcement (it was two people who fled before the cops arrived, and no violence, just threats and shouting).


Posted by: Jim Durbin at August 23, 2009 11:29 PM

When Libs say and do horribly rasist things. They're simply saying and doing horribly rasist things.

They love to put swastikas on their doors, or deface their own cars, or destroy veterans' graves. I'm sure they try to say that they're really acting "in character" as someone else.

But their behavior speaks for itself.

They're wackos.

Posted by: brando at August 24, 2009 09:48 AM

Ya know. I remember a time when they actually got angry when someone was being racisist. I sure did. But these idiot liberals have cried wolf too many times.

Posted by: Tuf Gut at August 24, 2009 10:11 AM

Dude, us normal people are regular unaffiliated with any particular group people who are trying to get the attention of our representatives (in this case Boxer as she flits around during the August recess selling her book) as opposed to the Obamabots such as yourself - they showed up at the direction of Organizing for America which was printed on their signs and there was an email sent out - don't deny, I saw it. And the other freaks - I saw them, you didn't were most likely responding to the Craigslist ad asking for protesters and paying them $10 - $15. I've got the link. The other abnormal people had professionally done up "Thank You" signs for Boxer.

Posted by: Jayne at August 25, 2009 02:19 AM