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September 28, 2009

Moby or Maybe: The Real Extremists are on the Left

Over the weekend a person on Facebook created a poll asking if President Obama should be assassinated. Results of the survey were unknown, and Facebook quickly closed the poll, suspended the user, and contacted the Secret Service.

Left wing blog such as the Huffington Post and the Political Carnival conveniently had screen captures of the poll before it was removed, and other left wing blogs and commenters are having a field day with the story, trumpeting this as existence of proof that Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, (insert conservative pundit here) is responsible of stirring up right wing violence.

They're only missing two things.

  • Evidence that the person who posted the poll was serious, and not a Kilgore Trout-type moby looking to manufacture evidence of hate, and;
  • if the person who posted created this poll was serious, that mainstream conservative television and radio show personalities are responsible for their views.

As is so often the case before facts as known, these liberals respond by making knee-jerk, emotional decisions, just as they did last week when the body of Census worker Bill Sparkman was found dead with the word "fed" scrawled on his chest in a remote area where illegal drug growth and manufacture is common.

The simple truth is that we don't know what we don't know.

We still don't know why Bill Sparkman was killed, and don't know the underlying reason behind it. That hasn't kept liberals from blaming conservatives. And now these same angry souls are claiming that conservative media are somehow behind this Facebook poll.

But we don't know who created this poll. We don't know if they are conservatives. We don't know if they are radical leftists attempting to find the sort of corruption on the right as James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles so easily uncovered on the left. We don't even know if the person who posted this poll is American, much less influenced by American conservative media figures, and it would not be beyond the ability of Canadian liberals to post such a poll as bait, knowing they would be immune from the Secret Service's reach (the "Kids in the Hall" defense).

What we do know is that history clearly shows that leftists are far more prone to violence than conservatives, and that the reactionary hatred on the political left runs far deeper than it does on the right.

CBS News blog Politcal Hotsheet captures this seething anger in just the second comment to their entry about the poll, as they capture a leftist hoping that the person who created the poll surrenders, and then is murdered by police.

The violence that leftists see is inferred; the violence they preach is explicit.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at September 28, 2009 06:06 PM
Comments

There's a history of the left saying stupid things while pretending to be on the right. Not long ago a man was tracked down who was making racist threats to Obama online. He was a black lefty trying to make the right look bad.

Posted by: Steve at September 28, 2009 06:24 PM

>>"We still don't know why Bill Sparkman was killed, and don't know the underlying reason behind it."


Or even if he was killed. The police say they have not ruled out suicide.

Posted by: Steve at September 28, 2009 06:26 PM

I can't imagine anoyone serious about killing Obama, particularly a conservative. If Obama left office, it would result in a Biden presidency and the fact that Obama's agenda would surely pass through congress. If Biden could not be president for some reason (mental incompetence) then we would have Nancy P. So I would say that Obama is the safest man in the country from a conservative aspect.

Posted by: David at September 28, 2009 06:45 PM

I was in grade school when the PA system suddenly interrupted class with the news that President Kennedy had been shot. I never want to see such as day in the U.S. again.

The left howls now about the incipient violence of their opponents, but repugnant fantasies about killing Bush surfaced often during the last 8 years, always with a quick disclaimer (from the UK Telegraph):

Nicholson Baker wishes to make one thing clear: if George W. Bush is shot dead tomorrow - or any other day - it won't be his fault. "I don't want to kill the President," he states simply, but with passion. "The thought of the assassination of the President, or even of his untimely death, makes me wince."

Few novelists feel obliged to defend themselves against charges of complicity in a possible murder, but the gentle, mild-mannered Baker has recently had no choice. In his latest novel, Checkpoint, a would- be assassin discusses with a friend the killing of George W. Bush.

Posted by: zhombre at September 28, 2009 07:07 PM

>>"I was in grade school when the PA system suddenly interrupted class with the news that President Kennedy had been shot."


Relevent to this discussion is the fact that he was shot by an ardent communist. And that the American left then nevertheless blamed his death on "right-wing extremists".

Posted by: Steve at September 28, 2009 08:55 PM

Yep, people of a particular type are still blaming Kennedy's assassination on "Texas" for lack of a better word.

Posted by: ECM at September 28, 2009 09:00 PM

Its a shame of what this country have come to god bless us all and may the lord protect us..

Posted by: Chris Brown at September 28, 2009 10:06 PM

Great Post CY.

Given many of the comments by Libs on this very blog, I think that the term 'Moby' doesn't quite sum up what the Left wants.

Liberals actually want to kill the President.

Posted by: brando at September 28, 2009 11:37 PM

I actually disagree with some of these opinions on the Left over the Kentucky census worker. Obviously it wasn't a tea-bagger or birther who committed the murder because the word "fed" was spelled correctly.

But Dan Riehl over at Carnivorous Conservative showed typical true colors of sleaze by suggesting the murdered census worker was a child predator and that would explain his murder. NO!!! The Left have no reason to suspect people on the Right are this sleazy and capable of these things. Just paranoia.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 29, 2009 11:11 AM

Zhombre,
To give another side to the Kennedy killing. I was in High School in Louisiana. Dallas is only a few hours away. When Kennedy was killed and they announced the fact, the whole school stood and cheered. There had actually been newspaper headlines warning the president not to come south as it would result in his death. The problem was the LBJ was much worse and was armed with enouth rightous indignation that he was able to push through his sociaization of the US and the Vietnam war.

Posted by: David at September 29, 2009 11:39 AM

"Relevent to this discussion is the fact that he was shot by an ardent communist. And that the American left then nevertheless blamed his death on "right-wing extremists"."

It tells you all you need to know about their perspective when they consider a communist "right-wing".

Lipiwitz -- shut up or at least attempt to make sense.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 29, 2009 11:52 AM

>>"Dan Riehl over at Carnivorous Conservative showed typical true colors of sleaze by suggesting the murdered census worker was a child predator and that would explain his murder."


Why do you object to this? You think that only people on the left are entitled to engage in speculation? You've been speculationg for a while that he was killed by extremist right wingers, without bothering yourself with your total lack of evidence.

Posted by: Steve at September 29, 2009 01:46 PM

Good morning,

Iíve read this blog for a number of years; enjoy both Bobís posts and the comments. Donít think Iíve ever commented before, but I just have to ask: What did you guys do to get saddled with an asshole troll like Lipiwitz?

Posted by: JBHood at September 29, 2009 02:42 PM

Obviously it wasn't a tea-bagger or birther who committed the murder because the word "fed" was spelled correctly.
Posted by Lipiwitz at September 29, 2009 11:11 AM

Well isn't that special. Our resident troll not only throws out a sexual reference but adds, an insult of stupidity to boot. Ha!

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the modern day Democrat. Not your fathers Democrat party any longer.

Posted by: LH at September 29, 2009 06:12 PM

JBHood, These are paid trolls via George Soros and Company. All right leaning blogs have them. We point and laugh, point and laugh. Whacked out nut jobs to be sure. Who are they convincing. No one.

Posted by: LH at September 29, 2009 06:15 PM

Once again we are a totally divided nation. Many on the right are preparing for a conflict. The left is getting more and more zealous in their attacks. Many of them want a confrontation. I dont think enough of them realize how many on the right have military and law enforcement backgrounds. They seem to think that once it starts the military will squash the right and the left will inherit the nation. I wish I could see into the future. For now... Lock and load boys... it could get ugly.

Posted by: capt26thga at September 29, 2009 08:10 PM

Obviously you're new here LH, I'm not a paid troll and most everybody here knows it. I'm just a dick and do it for free.

I don't know why you object to it Steve. You people have mastered the art of whining over the "Left's speculation". It has nothing to do with the Left. It has to do with disrespecting somebody who died tragically and his family in mourning over speculation without any level of substance to try to protect some racist paranoid idiot like Michelle Bachmann. Why would anybody throw that out there. How sick. People like you Steve have rubbed your privates raw over the ACORN hack videos and now everybody dead or alive must be child predators so people like you will drop your drawers and IQs on command. Quick, run and fetch a talking point.

And capt26thug -- the Left are in control of the World's most powerful military now. Bring your pea-shooters and misspelled "soshalist" signs. We'll be OK. If you can't even win elections, we don't think you can reload a gun quick enough to dodge the predator drones. Rest assured, the Left will have a pool going and somebody with $5 on the square will be rooting for ya!

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 29, 2009 08:26 PM

Lipiwitz is an dick but he's right about the predator accusations, they're messed up

and David, what kind of effed place did you grow up in where they would celebrate a man's death?

Posted by: MAModerate at September 29, 2009 09:55 PM

"It has to do with disrespecting somebody who died tragically and his family in mourning"

Lipiwitz - Sort of like you and your buddies using that woman who just died in Boehner's district as a fresh trophy for need for health care reform? Hypocrisy, thy name is Lipsofshit.

The ACORN videos speak for themselves, thankfully, and the only ones in denial about them are the retards on the left. I'm wondering what Patrick Gaspard, Bertha Lewis' right hand man in the White House is thinking right about now. And Lippy, I thought you didn't care about ACORN, more lies from you tonight.

Posted by: daleyrocks at September 29, 2009 11:48 PM

>>"It has to do with disrespecting somebody who died tragically and his family in mourning over speculation without any level of substance to try to protect some racist paranoid idiot like Michelle Bachmann."


It's a good thing you're not doing any of that horrible "speculation" crap yourself. Oh, wait.... you are. You just happen to LIKE your own racist paranoid speculation and to dislike other peoples.

In others words, you're a raging hypocrite. Which is just another way of saying a lefty.

Posted by: Steve at September 29, 2009 11:55 PM

MayorDaleyRocks -- That wasn't disrespectful, it was fact. I don't recall anybody on the Left referring to this deceased girl from Boehner's district as a potential child molester.

And the whole Patrick Gaspard nonsense -- has anybody actually PROVED it? So far...NO! Just more BS from the opinion generators to the dimwitted echo chamber who can't spell Google.

And Steve, where am I paranoid and/or a racist. Because of the idiot Michelle Bachmann? She could be black, yellow, green, orange or polka-dot and she would STILL be an idiot. That's not racist. What, only white people are allowed to recognize idiots? You're probably white and think I'm an idiot. Racist.

Thanks MAModerate (I think). There were actually quite a few people who celebrated JFK's death because they were paranoid and thought he was a Communist. You get dumb people, add propaganda from highly paid opinion generators and you end up with an obedient echo chamber who will never stray too far into intelligent thought because it's "Liberal". Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Racist...it's all the same. Indoctrinated into believing Google, a library, encyclopedias, anything that proves truth is "Liberal" and must be ignored at all costs. What's the difference between ignorance and stupidity? Ignorance is CHOOSING to be stupid. There's a reason why Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin didn't go the the 9/12 rally is DC. They didn't want to be seen with them.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 30, 2009 01:31 AM

"Lippy, I thought you didn't care about ACORN, more lies from you tonight." -- I don't! I'm just sick and tired of hearing about it. I have never in my life seen such an obsessive frenzy over something as what has been seen from the Right over ACORN. My GAWD!!! ACORN this and ACORN that and ACORN ACORN ACORN WAAH WAAH WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! We get it! You don't like ACORN! Now you get it...WE DON'T CARE!!!

Has anybody even bothered to do a little fact checking on ACORN since the two hacks became infamous? Probably not. Reality check time:

ACORN has not lost one single cent in federal funding. The Republicans put forth dueling legislation that are worded differently so now the Defund ACORN Act(s) have to go before a committee to get the wording corrected and agreed upon. Oopsie! And then there is this pesky little nuisance called the Constitution which strictly prohibits whats called a Bill Of Attainder which is legislation targeting one person or entity. If a group is guilty of corruption than legislation must be worded to apply to ALL groups guilty of corruption and not just one and according to the wording of the Defund ACORN Act(s), the Democrats have compiled a list of organizations that qualify to lose all federal funding (and plan on pursuing) including: Halliburton, KBR, McDonald/Douglas, Lockheed Martin, Blackwatere/Xe, Armor Group, Wackenhut, Boeing, Dynacorp. Titan, Bechtel, Aegis, etc. These are companies that have actually been found guilty of violations set forth in the Defund ACORN Act(s)and have had to pay massive fines and/or had employees convicted for crimes while acting in the capacity of a government contractor. Sounds like a pretty icky mess the Republicans face if they try to deny ACORN of funding. Your faith is ill placed.

Not to mention that despite the nuisance the hacks caused the housing division of ACORN, the voter registration division of ACORN is still strong and going. ALL voter registration investigations have ended with arrests of temp workers who broke the law but ACORN has operated 100% within the confines of the law. Nevada is the only one left. The voter registration investigations have caused the forced resignation of Alberto Gonzales and the behind closed doors testimony of Karl Rove and Harriet Myers which may lead to indictments over the firing of US Attorneys who found no wrong doing on behalf of ACORN.

Now your frenzy is getting so desperate and pathetic that your playing six degrees of separation with ACORN and White House staff. Pathetic. Funny but pathetic.

Not to mention we all know the truth about what you think about ACORN and why you're targeting them:

Activist Conservatives Opposing Registering Ni##ers.

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 30, 2009 02:46 AM

>>"where am I paranoid and/or a racist. Because of the idiot Michelle Bachmann?"


You are racist and paranoid where you attribute Sparkmans death to crazed white southern right-wing extremists. That's where.

And where you somehow manage to tie Bachmann to Sparkmans death.

Technically speaking, Lipshits, you're a loon.

You're also a pedophile who richly deserves to be behind bars.

Posted by: Steve at September 30, 2009 03:38 PM

That is a bald faced lie Steve. I never linked Sparkman's death to crazy southern right-wing extremist (you). I originally posted in another CY blog that I believed it was the action of back woods type people similar to what you'd find in the movie "Deliverance. People who have no party affiliation, do not vote, couldn't tell you who the President and don't care. They're cut off from the outside World. That's who I believe killed Sparkman, not tea-baggers.

I never linked Bachmann to Sparkman's death. Who needs a dead census worker to establish Bachmann as a total tool?

And I'm not a pedophile, I'm a Democrat. 8>)

Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 30, 2009 05:28 PM

Posted by Lipiwitz at September 30, 2009 02:46 AM

You've got some weapons grade crazy in that comment right there, proving once again that liberalism is a mental disease.

Thanks for sharing! Do you need a license to be so stupid where you live?

Posted by: daleyrocks at September 30, 2009 06:33 PM

"And the whole Patrick Gaspard nonsense -- has anybody actually PROVED it?"

Lippy - Has anyone disproved what was written at American Spectator or Red State? Now you also have Stanley Kurtz at NRO confirming details. Ben Smith's sophistry at Politico was meaningless and a distraction. You've got nothing and are in denial once again.

"MayorDaleyRocks -- That wasn't disrespectful, it was fact."

Holding her out as a symbol for healthcare reform while her family was grieving was flat out disrespectful and ghoulish. You have no moral compass.

Posted by: daleyrocks at September 30, 2009 07:59 PM