September 21, 2005
The Million Yawn March
The AP, Washington Post, and other news sources gleefully mentioned Cindy Sheehan's march on the White House this afternoon. With the exception of Reuters, however, they were all more than willing to forego this little tidbit of information:
Mrs Sheehan was joined by about 30 supporters in her march down Pennsylvania Avenue to deliver a letter to Bush urging him to pull the troops out of Iraq.
Source: Reuters via Yahoo!
That's all, folks. I count 29 people. This is her entire protest party. Including Cindy.
After a carefully stage-managed vigil by liberal PR firm Fenton Communications, and a pair of 3-week long national bus tours to drum up support for her cause, "Mother Sheehan" managed to bring with her just this tiny gaggle with her to the gates of the White House.
The organizers backing her show hope to draw "ten of thousands" of fellow protestors this weekend, but if this sad crowd and last night's turnout of just 150 in New York are any indication, the fledging anti-war movement of Cindy Sheehan is all but dead.
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I remember back in Lexington when I was going to UK, this was before the rocks solidified out of their molten state to date me, one of the local political activists decided to have a protest march for something or other,
He dotted all the i's crossed all the t's got all his permits etc etc, and 4 people, one on a bicycle showed up.
While he had not been paying attention the War had ENDED.
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Sheehan's 15 minutes of glory has ENDED. Except for the Legacy Media that is, What other group of 2 dozen or so fossils gets this much attention?
Wow, that's alot more then I expected. Cindy Sheehan's so full of herself seriously. She thinks that everyone in America agrees of her when really most of us are sick of seeing her face. The next time we probably see her is in a Micheal Moore movie.
Posted by: Crystal at September 21, 2005 10:24 PMHer time was up a few weeks ago, when Soros stopped funding her.
Posted by: John Anderson at September 21, 2005 10:37 PMHold on everyone.
Before we rush out saying "150" or "30" or even Bob's "29," don't you think we should wait until Raleigh's News and Observer gives us its "official" count?
I mean, The N&O's fair and accurate, right?
Meanwhile, nice work, Bob, and a good thread.
John
Posted by: John at September 21, 2005 11:23 PMYou've got to be kidding. We had over 200 at our family reunion. Wow, Cindy, that's quite a movement you got there, girl!
Get together with Pinky and the Brain and "take over" the world, Cindy. Pathetic!
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2005 12:09 AMSuperb work, CY!
Only 30?!? But she has *absolute moral authority!* Doesn't that count for *something*?
Checking out the cropped photos at Getty and AP made this even sweeter.
I do wonder how many of these "protests" looked a tad larger thanks to creative clipping in the pre-blog days ...
Posted by: valjean at September 22, 2005 12:21 AMWhere's Osama?
Where's the WMD?
It's not that most would disagree that Sadam isn't / wasn't a good leader, but...
In repeatedly changing the rational for going to war, from WMD / Osama /Sadam / Spreading Democracy / Fighting an outpost of Terror, the view of a LOT of people I've engaged in casual conversation admit Bush Lied about the reasons to go to war.
He Lied about our previous years of support and defence of Sadam, including that Rumsfeld visited with Sadam personally and repeatedly in the years leading up to his decision to invade.
THAT is why people are upset. I've voted Republican my whole life, and if the Party can't find and elect a President who can tell the truth, as well as admit when we made a bad call, the party is screwed.
Posted by: P at September 22, 2005 05:57 AMMother Sheehan is mad Bush sent her son on a mission of spreading liberty and democracy to 25 million Iraqis. She apparently finds no fault with the murdering Islamists that killed her son.
Posted by: Ed Poinsett at September 22, 2005 07:06 AMPresident Bush never lied about the reasons for the war in Iraq. He listed a dozen or more valid and truthful facts for the action. The left winger media-types then twisted his positions - it's this twisted positioning that makes people think that the President lied - he didn't lie! You suckers are victims of the leftist media lies.
Posted by: airmarshal at September 22, 2005 07:47 AMHey "P",
You're "stuck on stupid"! (Don't you just love those military terms - especially from general officers like LTG Honore?) Republican my patoot! You liberals will claim to be anything if you think it will make your (talking) point(s). The end always justifies the means, doesn't it? You are a victim of hearing the same MSN lie for so long that you believe it. It's the Democratic doctrine (taken straight from Adolf himself) - repeat a lie long enough and loud enough and people will begin to believe it. Doesn't make it so..., but then, facts never stood in the way of good Democratic rhetoric (or anything that bashes the president), anyway.
Posted by: JohnY at September 22, 2005 08:02 AMP:
Where's Osama? - Look at map of Afghanistan & Pakistan and you just might understand.
Where's the WMD? - A short list of those that said they were there: - Clinton, Mrs Clinton, Sandy the thief Berger, Mrs Albright, Putin, Blair, Slam dunk CIA head, India, China, Egypt, John Kerry, Cocain Teddy, Pelosi, Harry Ried etc etc etc
It's not that most would disagree........ - WHAT??
In repeating changing the rational....... - It never was ONLY the WMD stupid!
Rumsfeld's visit....... That was another era - Stupid!
I voted Rep all my life....... Yea!
And if the Party can't find a Pres to tell the truth..... - I did not have sex with that woman.
Posted by: Hawk at September 22, 2005 08:31 AMI truly wonder what form of deviant gene produced this garden slug that walks upright. This pathetic woman is disgusting beyond belief.
Posted by: Rplat at September 22, 2005 09:05 AMI don't understand liberals/progressives or whatever group Cindy Sheehan speaks for. She said we should not have gone into Afghanistan. We toppled the Taliban, and when they were in control, no woman could go out in public without her husband or male family member, could not go to school, work, drive, or make any independent decision that a Man didn't approve. George W. Bush freed Afghani Women from Slavery! Some sister you turned out to be, Cindy!
Posted by: Tom T at September 22, 2005 09:20 AMOn her visit to NJ, there were a total of 8 supporters, and 50 members of the press.
Over 4 to 1!
Posted by: Patty at September 22, 2005 09:32 AMDear Friends, What if they are planning a small show at the beginning & will increase it dramatically after to pretend this is a grassroots movement? Anything is possible with the leftist backed groups. I hope not. This ploy, might even draw sympathy. Historically, Americans are certainly for the underdog whether they deserve it or not.
Posted by: carly at September 22, 2005 09:33 AMCindy who?
Posted by: scavenger1 at September 22, 2005 09:51 AMI am waiting for Peter Paul& Mary to sing Puff the magic mushroom
Posted by: Roger Geery at September 22, 2005 10:33 AMI can get 30 people together for lunch at Applebees, the media doesn't seem to care about that.
Posted by: The Man at September 22, 2005 10:56 AMHilarious....By all means, keep it up Cindy. I've enjoyed your comic relief from the past few weeks !
Posted by: dmc at September 22, 2005 10:58 AMThat gaggle of Stalinists meeting in D.C. this coming Saturday will be her "last blast". Then (hopefully)we'll hear this "grieving mom" no more.
Posted by: Spitfire at September 22, 2005 11:13 AMYou openly mock a woman who lost her son in a war for wanting to end that war. You defend a president who has lied over and over again and used "terrorist alerts" to boost his poll numbers, appointed incompentents to positions vital to national security. Wake up people. Ignore the woman if you choose, that's fine, but it's important to question our leader's actions and motivations rather than attack those who do. That is what America was founded on, the belief that our leaders are not infallible, that they MUST be questioned. Go reread the Federalist Papers, might be an eye opener for some. There are parts in there that both sides should be able to agree on.
Posted by: Nite74 at September 22, 2005 11:21 AMYou openly mock a woman who lost her son in a war for wanting to end that war.
No, I do not.
I openly mock her for her unambiguosly anti-American statements (calling America a "cancer" that is "not worth fighting for"), her crazy conspiracy theories (that the Secret Service will assassinate her, or that the Army is setting up machine gun nests in New Orleans), her unashamed support for her son's killers, and several other reasons, but not merely becuase she opposes the war.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at September 22, 2005 11:45 AMCindy was here in one of the most Republican counties in Illinois - there were over 400 supporters and maybe 30 protestors. I cannot believe how clueless you Bush supporters/apologizers are. The truth is, your 'leader' has promoted himself as a uniter, yet he has presided over some of the most divisive government in this country since the Civil War. The truth is your 'leader' runs one of the most secretive, fiscally irresponsible administrations in this country's history. The list goes on but it's no doubt lost on the Bush apoligists and spinners. The truth is many of us Americans are holding Bush accountable for the shortcomings of his leadership generally, and specifically in the aftermath of the Katrina disaster. Some of us are also holding accountable the 59 million Americans who failed to see what 56 million of us could grasp: that just because George Bush says it, or his spinners say it, and say it very effectively, doesn't make it so."
H. Clinton and McCain have agreed to meet with her.
Posted by: neverforget at September 22, 2005 11:53 AMThe MSM and the new math: If it's about a liberal or liberalism, the total will always be greater than the sum of its parts. The opposite is true for conservatism.
Posted by: Jeff at September 22, 2005 12:01 PMWithout foreign intervention, the transition in Iraq would have been from Saddam's bloodstained hands to his psychopathic offspring. Instead, thanks to American leadership, Iraqis have been given an opportunity of peaceful, participatory politics. Contrary to the new conventional wisdom, Iraq and the history of 20th-century Europe demonstrate that force of arms can implant democracy in the most arid soil. The rapidity of the democratization and reform of Iraq is staggering. There was no German state for four years after the Second World War. By contrast, Iraq has moved from a centralized, one-man dictatorship to a decentralized, federal republic in half that time...Posted by: Anon at September 22, 2005 12:03 PM...American forces are in Iraq at the invitation of the democratically elected government of Iraq, and with the backing of a United Nations Security Council resolution...
...Americans should be proud of what its soldiers have achieved. The presence of foreign forces has prevented a renewed civil war in Iraq--renewed because there has already been a civil war in Iraq. For 35 years, Saddam and his Baath Party made war on the Iraqi people. The liberation of Iraq ended that civil war.
--Jalal Talabani, President of Iraq, Wednesday, September 21, 2005
So then it is Cindy and 28 of her closest friends (or paid marchers). I'd be beside myself. Wait, if they are beside themselves, isn't that roughly 59 folks?
Posted by: Magret at September 22, 2005 01:04 PMCindy Sheehan faced two problems in her quest to meet the president in his Crawford home. 1) Losing her son in combat doesn't qualify her to advise on military strategy or geopolitics. 2)
She is crude and vulgar like dog doo on your instep. I wouldn't want her in my home either.
John (Re: N&O)
Anyone remember when the Freepers protested algore back in 2000? He went to a fundraiser at the ambassadors house on Glenwood Ave.
About 50 of us protested, yet the N&O reporter pegged us at about a dozen. I called and confronted him, and he said that's how many there was when 'he counted', early in the afternoon.
Proving the Noise & Obscurer is capable of both under, and over counts!
Posted by: TC Rider at September 22, 2005 01:35 PMI support her right to say stupid things but enough is enough(Sheehan)
Posted by: Ken pennington at September 22, 2005 01:41 PMCindy,shame on you for what you are doing to our troops and the country your son ,re-inlisted, fought
for so proudly. GO HOME,if you have one now.
To "Big Picture", "Nite" and "P" - a question.
Do you ever get tired of repeating the same disproved litany of ridiculousness over and over and over? Have you ever taken the time to research some of what you're saying? It's kind of interesting - once you pull one thread, your whole argument unravels.
Try it. No, really. It's very enlightening. Take it from someone who was there, then did my research, and am now firmly entrenched in the truth.
xoxo
The Patriotette
"P" writes"
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Where's Osama?
Where's the WMD?
It's not that most would disagree that Sadam isn't / wasn't a good leader, but...
In repeatedly changing the rational for going to war, from WMD / Osama /Sadam / Spreading Democracy / Fighting an outpost of Terror, the view of a LOT of people I've engaged in casual conversation admit Bush Lied about the reasons to go to war.
He Lied about our previous years of support and defence of Sadam, including that Rumsfeld visited with Sadam personally and repeatedly in the years leading up to his decision to invade.
THAT is why people are upset. I've voted Republican my whole life, and if the Party can't find and elect a President who can tell the truth, as well as admit when we made a bad call, the party is screwed.
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You're a LIAR, "P". You've never voted Republican, much less your whole life. Opening your comments with Demnocrat talking points gives you away. Did you think that anyone would be fooled by your dishonesty? Do you think anyone is going to change their views or votes because of your lie? Think again.
By the way, P, we Americans spell defense with an "S". Not a "C".
That was either a typo on your part or you are a foreigner who doesn't have the right to vote in our elections. In which case, you have told another lie.
Posted by: Sal at September 22, 2005 05:02 PMI keep saying that the Sheehan [deleted -C.Y.] er(mother)is yesterdays news so why spend so much bandwidth on a persona non grata? Surely there are more important things to blog, like the latest Democratic senators stuck on stupid statements. Come to think of it Sheehan also seems to be stuck on stupid. Do you suppose this is a liberal malady? Comments by Big Picture, Nite and P would indicate that they too are stuck on stupid. Lads, try to look forward, not backward.
Watch the language, folks. No referring to Saint Cindy as a female dog, or other profanity. This is not a liberal blog.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at September 22, 2005 05:46 PMComments by Big Picture, Nite and P would indicate that they too are stuck on stupid. Lads, try to look forward, not backward."
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That's the best refute you can come up with, docdave? Looking forward is too depressing if the past is any indication with this monkey administration. I'm looking forward to the day the liars and thieves are out of the WH.
Silly silly Libs. Drivel, drivel, drivel. Mama Sheehan is the poster child for the Dems. A product of the public school system. Peace at any cost--even freedom. Let's trade her for 5 goats and 1 camel.
Posted by: Judith at September 22, 2005 08:28 PMOne has to wonder under what star the Sheehanapalooza set sail to get this kind of publicity. It's the kind of thing that John Kerry would have killed to get back in the day (and I leave which day entirely up to the reader).
Anti-war groups are using a $1 million ad campaign and a demonstration they say will attract 100,000 people to try to re-energize their movement and pressure the Bush administration to bring troops home from Iraq.I think they're going to get far fewer than even the media could envision because everyone will be focused on Rita coming ashore and while it should be properly relegated to page A17 as a nonstory, I figure that it will still get a front page lede, with a substantial story deeper in the paper. Posted by: lawhawk at September 22, 2005 08:37 PM
Wow - Phil Donahue was predicting "the largest anti-war movement since the Vietnam War" on O'Reilly Factor (Fox News). Was Phil there?
Posted by: Donna at September 22, 2005 09:03 PMTWENTY-NINE????
That's all???
Ok, I guess the rest of her Groupies will be with her on the weekend. Yeah,right, That's the ticket.
Posted by: RP. Moscato at September 22, 2005 10:49 PMWell P. let’s analyze your friend Cindy Sheehan. She has publicly stated the following:
Pull the troops out of “Occupied New Orleans”
“I pay no taxes”
“This isn’t about politics, this is about what is good for America”
(Yet she is sponsored by move on .org)
“I see a revolution coming”
(Um, with 29 people?)
“My son was killed for lies and a PNAC Neo Con agenda to benefit Israel.”
“America has been killing people since we first stepped on this continent, we have been responsible for death and destruction”
“We are waging a Nuclear War in Iraq right now”
This is an open plea from a proud parent of an active duty military son who is presently serving in Iraq.
Dear Cindy and P., I beg of you to continue your public speeches and notable quotes. You make our case. Before long, 29 people will be considered a crowd for you.
Posted by: vere at September 23, 2005 02:53 AMGood grief, are you all really that brain dead?! The "March" that this thread started with was something impromtu. The actual march is tomorrow, Saturday. You will then see what kind of support Cindy has. Cindy DOES speak for me - altho not those snipets 'vere' pulled out of context.
I do respect those who do feel that she doesn't - that is what the 1st amendment is all about. But denigrating the messenger is beyond respectability which is certainly lacking in this thread.
Posted by: The Big Picture at September 23, 2005 10:53 AMSheehan's "March of the 29 " was well planned in advance, and was NOT impromptu. Even a cursory reading of associated news stories would verify that simple fact. Sorry, but you are in denial.
Quote frankly, vere did you a favor. The larger context of Sheehan's quotes just make her look worse, but feel free to try to defend them.
I've got a nice little compendium here you are welcome to use as a guide, BP. Please show us where Saint Cindy was quoted out of context in a way that makes her look worse.
We're all ears.
Your spin, CY, is the same ingeniousness of this monkey administration. Only you neocons would deem this a 'march' on Wednesday when it was just the initial press conference prior to the March being held Saturday. It became a 'march' when the police forced them out of their cars. Obviously, we have different news sources.
Posted by: The Big Picture at September 23, 2005 03:05 PMYes, we do have different news sources. Mine come from recognized news outlets, your come, verbatim, from Mahablog, a far left liberal blogger, right down to the "police forcing them out of their cars" lie that you pulled straight from her site.
Maha, like Big Picture and many liberals won't let the truth get in the way of her narrative. For starters, they didn't have cars, but I digress...
Sheehan was scheduled to to appear at noon in front of the Capitol, but she didn't show because the organizer of the event, an anarchist dimbulb named Ryan Fletcher, from an organization called the Mintwood Media Collective, didn't bother to find out that there are safety regulations that prohibit large vehicles from driving right up to the Capitol Building. Something about terrorists. You have heard of them, right?
So after searching the vehicles, the Capitol Police let them go, directing them to Third Street, where the media had moved and expected them.
First off the bus was anarchist organizer Lisa Fithain, who stage managed a pathetic little march march, ordering photographers back so they could have their little march/photo op from their RVs to the microphone.
It was indeed a press conference, but they created the march on their own, complete with the banners they unfurled in the picture above. Normal people don't bring banners to a press conference, but they would if they were hoping to stage manage a photo op march, which is exactly what they planned from the very beginning.
Of course, my source is just a journalist who was actually there, not a liberal blogger in another city caught telling "stretchers."
Also, I noticed you didn't even make the attempt to try to justify Cindy's quotes once you realized that "vere" was being nice by paring them down. Ready to run up your white flag yet?
Other than the one you want to show terrorists, that is.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at September 23, 2005 04:06 PMCY, The Big Picture seems to have ended her run, you ingenious monkey, you. LOL!
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 23, 2005 05:57 PMAnalogy:
Facts are to liberals like
Kryptonite is to Superman.
The former make the latter powerless.
RE: a united vs a divider.
Liberals forget Bush tried to compromise with them. The initial tax cuts, had some compromise elements .... but the liberals gave him no credit. The No Child Left Behind was a compromise with Ted Kennedy - a law filled with the naivite of BOTH parties. But the Dems abandoned the bill in the next election cycle complaining there's not enough money in it.
(Folks, believe me, I'm a public school teacher. There's LOTS of money in education. More is NOT needed. It needs to be spent better. Neither party has the answer. Education needs to go on a $ diet ... or at the risk of sounding self-serving, FIRE all the bureaucrats and spend the savings on 1) paying teachers to develop curriculum in the summer 2) giving college students work-study jobs to help teachers correct papers. The increase in productivity would be astounding!)
Perhaps we should learn from that uniter Bill Clinton whose first budget was so far left it didn't even have the support of many Democrats and sacrificed Marjorie Margolies (D-PA) House career before it even began.
As I see it, liberals hate Bush (and us) because he threaten's their most precious value - intercourse without parenthood. One can hardly expect real morality from people who would kill a potential human being - convoluting logic to say its not human YET, or its the woman's body (duh-what about the body inside her body!) in order to "screw" without responsibility.
People with those values HAVE TO be blind to facts.
Thanks CY. This is my first visit here. I like your substatiation. Take this invite to visit me, although I'm not a daily blogger.
Posted by: TeacherJoeInLA at September 23, 2005 08:49 PMFolks, I've had to delete about a half dozen comments or so and lock down this thread because some folks who rode the short bus with the long numbers could't quite figure out that this thread referred to the mid-week march, not the weekend rally.
Sorry about that.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at September 28, 2005 01:01 AM
