October 03, 2005
Libs Already Questioning Miers Sexuality
Wow.
It took liberals less than two hours before questioning SCOTUS nominee Harriet Miers sexuality.
At least this time they are going after the candidate, instead of their kids.
Update: GayPatriot made the prediction at 8:49 AM. Can we call him Kreskin now?
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I'm confused. Wouldn't the liberals want a lesbian?
Posted by: greg at October 3, 2005 10:02 AMBut not if she is an evil conservative lesbian.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 3, 2005 10:04 AMDon't forget "white".
Posted by: The Man at October 3, 2005 10:15 AMThank you for recognizing the role that Wonkette plays in the liberal blogosphere: Substantive discussions of the serious matters of state. Ana Marie Cox is our Bill Buckley. With boobies.
Posted by: Rogers Cadenhead at October 3, 2005 10:20 AMGreg, you silly boy. As this Republican poofter can tell you, yes, of course they want a lesbian but not one who's strayed off the lefty reservation. That makes her a "hypocrite," as Jeff Goldstein has limned so nicely.
Posted by: Anthony at October 3, 2005 10:22 AMYou post the Wonkette link knowing they're joking, right?
Posted by: tom wood at October 3, 2005 10:25 AMOf course they are joking, Tom (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
Liberals always are, each and every time they bring it up.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 3, 2005 10:27 AMHumor, Satire, Fun.
I know. foreign concepts to right-wingers, but still...lighten up dude.
Posted by: XYZ at October 3, 2005 11:01 AMAnother Mary Cheney?
Let the games begin...
Posted by: California Conservative at October 3, 2005 11:11 AMDid you even read the Wonkette item? Her shameful secret is that she donated to both parties, hence the "swings both ways."
Get a clue.
Posted by: Jen at October 3, 2005 11:11 AMVia the Wonkette link, Jen.
"We're not even that excited about the possibility of her being gay."
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 3, 2005 11:17 AMSince you linked and all...note that my speculation revolved around what conservative Christians, President Bush's base, might think. In trying to think like a conservative Christian, the topic of sexuality *always* comes up. You need only look to Drier being overlooked as a replacement for Delay, or the crazy assertions that gay folk made the Hurricane Katrina hit that den of sin, New Orleans.
You'll also note that I offered that she might simply be really devoted to her career, another thing conservative Christians might not be thrilled about.
I understand your need to jump on the bandwagon, but step back and read the entries you link to.
Posted by: mac at October 3, 2005 11:19 AMOh, I've looked at Drier, Mac.
You aren't doing yourself any favors bringing that up.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 3, 2005 11:37 AMOdd, I don't see where this - who is it? Peksy Apostrophe or something? - is actually questioning Miers sexuality. It is hard to trust a woman who never wanted a husband and child, though. She's no Karen Hughes, that's for sure.
Seems like you'd want a Supreme Court Justice that had actually been a judge, though. Or an expert on the Constitution. May not be required, but, gee, it IS the Supreme Court and all.
Even a judge for Arabian horse competitions would be better.
Posted by: Fiscally Prudent at October 3, 2005 12:08 PMSo, where the "going after her" part? I actually think her being a lesbian is a plus. But, for some reason, bringing that up seems to bother you guys.
Lord knows why. ;^)
Posted by: Hesiod at October 3, 2005 12:11 PMsorry folks, but Wonkette ?? I mean, that blog isn't liberal or conservative, it's about DC sex scandals, reals as well rumoureds.
Wonkette gossiping about sex is about as new or shocking as the Pope holding a mass.
Posted by: Cris at October 3, 2005 12:14 PMUh, using Wonkette as an exemplar of serious liberal opinion is like... well... using Maureen Dowd as an exemplar of serious liberal opinion.
Most lefty bloggers I know are not very keen on her.
Posted by: M at October 3, 2005 12:15 PMIf you read the post, it's a prediction of how republicans/conservatives will respond to her childless/husbandless condition. Is that really attacking her? I think it's a weak attack on conservatives for all being homophobes or something.
Posted by: Nathan at October 3, 2005 12:41 PMAnd the sainted one, William Rehnquist, had *how much* judicial experience before being appointed to the court? And how much did Byron White have?
There are a couple dozen others who have had *none*.
Posted by: darren at October 3, 2005 01:15 PMFree Republic was questioning her sexuality 20 seconds after finding out she wasn't married and 60. Eyes and Logs, people
Posted by: readFreeRepublic at October 3, 2005 01:40 PMOh come on. Ralph Nader is unmarried and without children, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a weirdo. It just means he's TOO MUCH MAN most for women to handle.
Posted by: Liberal Larry at October 3, 2005 01:52 PMCY -
Might want to listen to the readers on this one. Really, Wonkette's comment was about her contributing to both parties. I think that's pretty apparent.
LOL! Maybe it's time to switch to decaf?
I agree with you though, much too soon to begin attacking her. I think Limbaugh and Kristol were wrong to do that so quickly. Need to give her a fair hearing and let her speak her mind first.
Then again, maybe I'm a little biased since she's a woman :)
Posted by: Sally Jones at October 3, 2005 02:04 PMI've heard Miers frequented moderate bars in Austin during the 80's. Wonder if she knows Ann Richards and Molly Ivins.
Posted by: Texas Dem at October 3, 2005 02:36 PMI'll try to type slower so that some of you can understand.
Wonkette said:
"We're not even that excited about the possibility of her being gay."
Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course, just like Mary Cheney, or Ken Melhman, or David Drieir, or any other gay or potnetially gay conservative. It doesn't matter... so why do you keep trying to bring it up? Because liberals love to use sexuality as a politically divisive weapon, felling that they "own" the gay voter.
Pesky Apostrophe said:
The very first thing I thought is that the Christian religious extremists might have a problem with Miers. She’s 60, never been married, no children? That should probably send up a red light with them. Whether it’s just that she’s extremely devoted to her career or if she bats for the other team, you know they don’t truck with women who aren’t committed to the penis and offspring and presenting the pot roast while wearing pearls.
The very first thing he thought was about was Miers possible sexuality issues, and how it could become a political issue. P.A. (or here, "mac" has been backtracking ever since to disguise his intent. The beauty is that P.A. doesn't see the bigotry towards conservatives or gays. Looking at these comments, other libs don't either.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 3, 2005 02:44 PMThe beauty is that P.A. doesn't see the bigotry towards conservatives or gays. Looking at these comments, other libs don't either.
No, they see bigotry in conservatives towards gays, and thus find it very amusing when conservatives turn out to be gay (ah, the ironing is delicious!). You see, liberals don't think its a bad thing to be gay and don't hold it against anyone. Conservatives do. Liberals would like her more if she were gay. Conservatives wouldn't.
Btw if you're going to accuse all liberals of going after Miers' sexuality, you would be better served in linking to bloggers other than one no one has ever heard of, and one that only writes about sex anyway.
I hope she is gay, and then we'll be able to test your theory when all the Democratic senators vote for her, and the Republicans don't.
Posted by: mantis at October 3, 2005 03:25 PM"Seems like you'd want a Supreme Court Justice that had actually been a judge, though. Or an expert on the Constitution."
Plenty of historical precedent for this, though. I think it's a ho-hum so-so lukewarm choice, but it's not the end of the world.
"You see, liberals don't think its a bad thing to be gay and don't hold it against anyone. "
Except the closeted, or the conservative, or (horror!) the closeted conservative.
Posted by: Knemon at October 3, 2005 03:32 PM"Seems like you'd want a Supreme Court Justice that had actually been a judge, though. Or an expert on the Constitution."
Personally, I'd like a judge who can stare intently at the Constitution like one of those Magic Eye posters until all sorts of previously undetectable rights come springing forth.
Why look! There's a right to same-sex marriage...oooh, and a teddy bear!
Posted by: LiberalLarry at October 3, 2005 05:38 PMI made this same prediction at 8:22 AM. Click on my name for details. But don't call me Kreskin. That guy was weird.
Posted by: salt1907 at October 3, 2005 06:06 PMLarry,
The constitution enshrines existing rights. Others not mentioned nonetheless exist. Right to privacy in a nutshell.
C.Y.
I'll slow-type for you. I'm confident that you can understand that the meme of the left is that social conservatives disapprove of gay people and the gay lifestyle. Therefore, therefore it is interesting when those on the right are put in a position of having to support/defend an gay individual. This then becomes an opportunity to accuse to other side of that unpardonable political sin. Hypocrisy. That said, the object of the attack is not the gay individual but the conservatives forced to defend that individual.
"The constitution enshrines existing rights."
Indeed. But there are some rights that are so fragile that the Framers wrote them in secret code to protect them from conservative judges who would stike them down. Only a progressive justice with an ACLU membership can accurately decipher them. The right to privacy is an excellent example.
Posted by: Liberal Larry at October 3, 2005 06:36 PMNicolas Cage can read them with the Ben Franklin 3D glasses too, Larry. Maybe he should be the next justice.
Posted by: Josh at October 3, 2005 06:50 PMWe're not even that excited about the possibility of her being gay.
It's a joke. Laugh.
Posted by: a at October 3, 2005 10:48 PMCY, you ignorant slut.
Don't you know it's conservatives who have a problem with gay people?
Conservatives are the ones who trade in rumor-mongering about people's sex lives. Liberals would never engage in such behavior.
If they do just happen to mention the possibility the a particular person might be gay, they would never do so in an attempt to "out" them to conservatives, who they assume will then shun said "outted" person.
If they were going to do such a thing, however, they would probably have to spend a lot of time thinking about "what conservative Christians, President Bush's base, might think."
According to leftists, everyone just has to be humping something and/or have a little accident to show for it.
Because no one has any self-control. Because we are all are just another form of animal.
So say the leftists.
Posted by: Juliette at October 4, 2005 12:31 AMPersonally, as a Christian male with a wife and 4 children, Ms. Miers sexuality is of no concern to me. What is of concern to me is whether or not she would interpret the laws of this country as created by the legislative branch and signed by the executive branch, or would she invent new laws and rights to please minority concerns.
Posted by: Chuck at October 4, 2005 08:39 AMWouldn't the liberals want a lesbian?
We like our homersexuals out of the closet. We really don't like closeted homos who enact homophobic legislation. Case in point: Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina. That guy sets off a person's gaydar big time - no doubt at all about him. But he's a closet-case and votes for homophobic legislation. Doesn't get much slimier than that.
"[Miers' sexuality] doesn't matter... so why do you keep trying to bring it up? Because liberals love to use sexuality as a politically divisive weapon, felling that they "own" the gay voter."
Just like you rightwingers love to bring up "affirmative action" and "welfare cheats" as part of your appeal to racist white conservatives.
It drives your base crazy.
Look. If it doesn't bother you that she's gay, and may rule in favor of gay rights while on the court, I thik that's wonderful.
Maybe you should be bitcing about this to people like James Dobson and Pat Robertson though. We liberals actually don't have a problem with her sexuality.
Just the discomfort it causes rightwing hypocritical a-holes.
As if Hesidiot is in a position to call anyone an asshole.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 5, 2005 01:25 PMHesiod, give me a break:
We liberals actually don't have a problem with her sexuality.
The Dobsons and Robertsons don't speak for the majority of conservatives, and if you were honest with yourself, you'd admit that. they are rarely mentioned in our side of the blogosphere except when we mock them.
On the other hand, John Aravosis and Mike Rogers are superstars in the liberal blogosphere for one thing, and one thing only: attacking homosexuals that don't toe the party line. "Outing" conservative gays is one of the Left's favorite guilty pleasures, and you justify it by saying any gay conservative is a hypocrite.
It is my opinion that reducing every man and woman on the planet down into rigidly-defined groups based upon their choice of who to cuddle with is childish and crude, and yet that the is premise of your set-peice smear against non-liberal gays.
Pathetic.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 5, 2005 01:34 PMIt's one thing to be a gay conservative, and out of the closet.
It's altogether different to be a gay conservative who is in the closet and expresses homophobia in order camouflage his or her own self-hatred and/or inabliity toward self-acceptance - to the distinct and hypocritical detriment to gays who are otherwise.