Interesting piece by Dr. Sanity.

I'd love to read the piece she must have done a few years ago on the *Clinto Haters*.

It would be interesting to learn if it's the same pathology she attributes to the *Bush Haters*.

The difference, Richard, is that no Republican has ever seriously tried to create a mental illness to deal with their disappointments.

So if you see no real difference between accepting the validity of these new documents and accepting the validity of the memo, then I suppose you accept the validity of the Downing Street Memo.

Or perhaps you have other "proof" that the DSM is a fake and these new documents are real.

Or perhaps everyone believes what they want to believe and analogies don't work.

Either way, by the logic of your analogy these two documents are equally legitimate. So now that you agree that the DSM is valid, I guess you think its pretty bad that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy” when this new document proves that there actually was a relationship between SH and OBL all along.

dedulysses, this post does not appear to be a validation of either case but an attempt to demonstrate the difference in MSM reporting standards.

Exactly. Specifically the BIAS of ABC and other MSM outlets. What say you oh Stoned One?

CY-

That's funny.

But it wasn't what my question concerned.

"dedulysses, this post does not appear to be a validation of either case but an attempt to demonstrate the difference in MSM reporting standards."

Well it seems like a call for equal treatment, so either both this new document and the DSM deserve a disclaimer or neither deserve it and should be treated as legitimate (or, at least, should be treated as both possibly true).

This argument seems to render them equal.

I'm sure that this blogger would have no problem if the situation were reversed: the media article about the DSM contained a disclaimer and the media article about these new documents did not.

I guess the drop in status to 'Former' MSM has effected them more than most people would think. I don't smoke, but i'll have some of what the former MSM types are smoking. That way we can all join the Holy-wood crowd in fantasy land. Maybe there really is a magic rabbit hole in Ks.

So now that you agree that the DSM is valid, I guess you think its pretty bad that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy”

The problem with this reasoning is that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" is not an iron-clad and detailed determination. It's a shorthand summary of the opinions of the British official, "C", to whom they are attributed. The paragraph from which the famous sentence is drawn provides no detail about why C thinks this. And since C is anonymous, we can't really ask him or her.

So, "valid" in what sense? To say that the DSM is "valid" just means it accurately reflects the personal opinion of an unnamed British envoy.

I think the main substantive difference here is the DSM were retyped while the originals were destroyed, and this was admitted to by the reporter.

Finally, it is amusing that the left wholly & completely ignores this portion of the DSM:

For instance, what were the consequences, if Saddam used WMD on day one, or if Baghdad did not collapse and urban warfighting began? You said that Saddam could also use his WMD on Kuwait. Or on Israel, added the Defence Secretary."

"Well, if you don't know what the difference is, I'm certainly not going to tell you!"

Sound familiar? Heheheee!

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