Don't you see, CY, that she's using the general ignorance too many people have of the Holy Scriptures in this ountry? She knows that way over half of those who are Christians do not read the Bible often, and that too many will not know their Samsom from their Goliath.

She's counting on the stupidity and illiteracy of the people to grab power. And that's what makes her even more dangerous.

The Holy Spirit's message on the Amazing Miracles Everywhere! blog offers a prayer for Hillary, so she gets it right.

Hillary Clinton is right on with her comments, I read the bible daily and know that Jesus's message was clear, help your fellow man-especially those that are marginalized and outcasts of society (i.e. the leppers). In today's society these individuals happen to be undocumented immigrants. HR4437 would make it illegal to assist these outcasts of society. Last time I checked Jesus could care less where you came from, he just wanted to help. So get the message right. I dont especially like Hillary and I'm not sure if she reads the Bible but she sure got the message right!

HR4437 would make it illegal to assist these outcasts of society.

"God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law…" (Gal. 4: 4, 5).

Jesus did not support criminality.

Jesus respected the Law of Moses. Why one asked Jesus "what shall I do to inherit eternal life" Jesus replied, "What is written in the law? How readest thou?" (Lk. 10: 25, 26). When the man correctly answered by alluding to the Ten Commandments, Jesus said "Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live" (vs. 27, 28). Jesus recognized the resident authority of the Hebrew scriptures when he quoted them to defeat the Tempter (Matt. 4, 7, 10, Deut. 8: 3; Ps. 91: 11, 12; Deut. 6: 16).

Christ recognized the authority of the law.

Every single illegal alien in this country is, without exception, a criminal.

WWJD?

He would have them obey the law.

Jesus told us to obey our government. He pointedly told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and that includes the laws as well as taxes. Jesus would forgive the illegal imigrants of their sins, but not their transgressions against man's laws.

Why can't we minister to the needs of the poor in their own country? Why do they have to unlawfully enter our country for help? If you wanted to imigrate to China would you simply cross their border and take up residence? Why should this country of laws be so ready to ignore our own laws?

As I listened to Hillary speak those words regarding scripture, a chill ran down my spine. It was as if she were forcing them out - they were empty of Love and Understanding.

I did not believe she believed what she had said.

Sadly, imho - its pure politics. Whats worse tho' would be her "handlers and advisers". Can you hear an 'alleged' conversation (purely fictional speculation):

"Hillary - you have to do this - you have to say it."

"I don't want to - I won't sound sincere."

"We've got to move you midstream - we're running out of time. You know Ms. Rice's background - we've got to move you a bit more - uhm, into the red."

"I don't think so..."

"It's the only way."

"You think so?"

"Yes... Hey - it worked for Bush - and you know how hated he is - yet there he is, still in office - despite everything."

"Okay... alright..."

The issue for Sen. Clinton now is this - the door has been opened and she opened it.

She can no longer avoid discussing her faith with regards to how she votes, campaigns - everything now is Fair Game for the opposition.

Today on Rush a caller made a very good point. He said, paraphrasing, "They've taken a political issue and made it a moral issue. And moral issues, they make political." (In ref. to the Dem. leaders).

Next up - "Senator Clinton - could you explain how you balance your faith in scriptures to your stand on >>>

It may have seemed the 'right' move at the time; but imho this will cause her no end of grief in the months ahead.

"I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants"-- Hillary 2004.

Now this disgusting attempt to use the name of Jesus to prop up her political agenda?

Could her pandering be any more obvious?

"Senator Clinton, how do you reconcile your Christian stand on aiding illegal immigrants, with your stand on abortion?"

CONGRATULATIONS SENATOR CLINTON FOR YOUR COURAGEOUS WORDS WHICH SHOWS THE EVIL INTENTIONS OF MODERN PHARISEES, WHO FORGET THAT THEIR EUROPEAN PARENTS WERE ALSO IMMIGRANTS IN THE LANDS OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN, WITH WHOM THEY CELEBRATED TOGETHER THANKSGIVING. WHY THE EUROPEAN AMERICAN NOW DENY THAT PRIVILIGE TO LATIN AMERICAN CHILDREN, HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN AND TREAT THEM AS CRIMINALS. SHAME ON YOU MODERN PHARISEES!

Hmmm, Well, David,

My Grandparents were LEGAL immigrants, that means they did exactly what they were supposed to do to get into this country.

That means it was LEGAL.

That means it was OK for them to do.

The correct paperwork and everything.

Just like EVERYONE is supposed to do it TODAY's society.

Just like YOU would have to do if you went to another country to live, at least LEGALLY.

As a lifelong liberal democrat eagerly anticipating this coming November, I was dismayed to find that the Democrats did find a way to shoot themselves in the foot by being on the wrong side of this issue. We need to uphold and encourage all of those individuals who are applying legally for residence and punish those who method is simply to shimmy under a fence. Hillary had better get her polling machine engaged before she goes too far down this dead end path!

Hillary is simply trying to peel off some social conservatives by feeding them the "Jesus as a do-gooder socialist crap" that has been pushed by the lefties the the National Council of Churches and books like people like Ronald Sider.

Everyone know Jesus was a capatilist! Here's the proof.

http://www.garynorth.com/public/department57.cfm

Hillary Clinton's reading of the Gospel is absolutely correct. You can justify about any position by selectively picking and choosing from the Bible, but then you're not really a Christian. Christ's teachings, in their fundamentals as laid out in the sermon on the mount and the beatitudes, are a difficult, radical message.

And, by the way, the Clintons go to church every weekend, did so throughout their years in the WH, and were active in the church (including their daughter). The Bushes never go to church, except once every few months for a photo-op. A few minutes with Google or Lexis-Nexis will confirm this for you.

And, regarding illegal immigration, the Native-American tribes didn't exactly issue green cards to the Europeans.

Mike,

Hillary was wrong, no doubt about it. She said that:

"...this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself."

That is not true.

The good Samaritan and Jesus were both natives of Israel, though from different tribes so it could not "literally criminalize them."

There is nothing in this bill that would stop people from helping someone in dire need, and there are in fact "good Samaritan" laws in place around the nation to protect people who would do just that.

Jesus consistently said that legal authority should be respected, and he never said that one should support criminal behavior.

Every single illegal immigrant in this nation is a criminal. That word "illegal" is there for a reason.

actually, you have quite a few facts wrong there.

A) Israel was not formed as a country until 1947. It was a people group before then, much like the Quakers or the Amish are a people group in america. However, until 1947, it was impossible to be a "citizen of Israel".

B) Jesus, the Levite, and the Priest were from Palestine.

C) The Samaritan was from Samaria. (hence where the name "Samaritan" came from.)

D) Samaria and Palestine were two distinct areas. They were in absolutely no way "one country". They were both under Roman rule, but so was majority of the known world (greece, spain, italy, etc. were all also under roman rule, but this does not make all these areas "one country).

E) Palestinians refused to even travel through Samaria, and vice versa. They would take long detours around the area when traveling, sometimes adding weeks to their journey.

I would suggest that the next time you plan on criticizing someone else's bible facts, you be more careful with your OWN statements. Why don't you try some of your own advice. Open a bible, and maybe a history book too while you're at it.

I noticed that the late pope John Paul II went as a Christian to visit and comfort and even forgive his would be assasin -he never demanded that he not pay the price of incarceration for his crimes though. Likewise I don't recall Jesus condemning the horrid practice of crucifixion -nor slavery -his message through Paul was to be good slaves.

-Although Israel was officially recognized as a country on May 14,1948 (when The Jewish Community in Israel under the leadership of David Ben-Gurion REESTABLISHED sovereignty over their ancient homeland. Then the Declaration of independence of the modern State of Israel was announced on the day that the last British forces left Israel), Israel was a country LONG before this.
It's all through the old testament. 1300BCE decendants of Abraham come together to become a nation. 1406BCE Joshua led the Jews into Canaan and begins conqering the land, establishing the Jewish nation of Israel for the first time.
-Israel had Judges and kings because like most Countries, they had government.
-1010-970BCE David made Jerusalem capital of Israel. Although, different people ruled at the time, Israel was still a country, and Jesus hung out in Jerusalem, and is an Israelite making him a citizen of Israel.
-So the author of this blog, is in fact correct.
-Yes, we should love our neighbors, but should we allow people to enter our country illegally, and should we allow for the people who help or sneak these illegal immigrants into out country to get off free. NO. Jesus was for following the laws of the land. We have laws, if you want to be a citizen then do it the right way. Further more, what happens when terrorists sneak in, or people trafficking drugs. Or the women who was raped and murdered (a few months ago) by an illegal immigrant, where is her justice.
-funny how most democrats are against the new bill, but are opposed to us in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other countries needing liberation.
-Hillary supports abortion and gay marriage..what would God say about these things? How about "Thou Shalt not Murder" and Leviticus 18:22 "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
- CONDI RICE 2008.

I understood Hillary's analogy more loosely, i.e. I think she meant that the Good Samaritan would have been criminalized for helping someone in need, as American citizens could (according to some people's interpretation of the proposed legislation) be criminalized for helping illegal immigrants in need. Nothing to do with who was a citizen of what two thousand years ago. Not that this is at all clear from the rest of the article, if I am right.

It is, of course, an odd thing to say. She does drop some real doozies. I still have no idea what she meant by that Gandhi thing.

"According to Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahoney, the proposed provision "is so broad that it would criminalize even minor acts of mercy like offering a meal or administering first aid." Mahoney has instructed the priests of his archdiocese to disobey the law if it is enacted."

Cardinal Mahoney, via the NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/opinion/22mahony.html?hp
via ThinkProgress
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/26/tancredo-clinton/

Hillary was clearly referring to the House bill's criminalizing knowingly providing assistance to an illegal immigrant. The bill would make it a felony to be in the country illegally, and make it illegal to aid such immigrants.

There is a huge difference between operating a network to bring illegals into the country, versus operating a soup kitchen or shelter for the poor. The proposed law would impose a huge burden on relief agencies, and a risk of prosecution. You're basically turning soup kitchens into INS agents.

Hillary's analogy was to the Good Samaritan helping someone regardless of who he was or where he was from, and to Christ ministering to the afflicted, feeding the hungry.

This is not about someones Christianity this is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. If you are here ILLEGALLY you have broken the law. All Americans that live here must obey the law. Everyone wants to demonize this bill. Most of those who want to condemn this do not live nor have they ever lived in a border state. Most want to jump on the band wagon about the poor illegals well, a lot of illegals come from China and the MiddleEast and other asian countries not just Mexico. What most liberals want is the VOTE of these folks. They must realize that these folks cannot vote due to there status. SOOOOO why do you think they want to change the law? I used to live in a border state and I understand why people want to come to this country, but there is a process by which you can LEGALY Immigrate. My wife is from asia so I understand the process. We have been married for twenty years. But do liberals know what illegals bring with them when they come across the border? Talk to the health care professionals. We are seeing the comeback of such diseases as Tuberculosis, Smallpox, Diptheria. These people bring the AIDS virus sometimes. Guess what they don't have the means to pay for there health care needs so who pays for it? The over taxed AMERICAN WORKER, you know the ones that PAY TAXES. Because our laws requires that they recieve medical services. The soaring cost of medical care in this country is due to the number of ILLEGALS that do not have insurance. If you don't believe me talk with Hospital Administrators in San Diego or L.A. Also consider the ciminal element drugs and Gangs Like MS-13. All that has been on the news is the lack of border & port security mostly by the left but, yet when they want to shut down the borders and kick out the people that don't belong here they are up in arms and envoking Christ's name. There is alot more to this than what I have written here.

Faithful Patriot:
Honestly I doubt what you said about your so called asian wife; I don't know why you said "you're familiar with that." Probably you are one of those persons who knows one or two things about something and automatically thinks to now a great deal. Don't show off ignorance please.

Obviosly you don't even know what you're talking about. You sound like another brainless parrot who only repeats what some people say. Do your homework and find out the real numbers. Those aliens pay more into the sytem than what they get. Don't you love at the end of the year (taxing season) you get your income tax return? I bet you do. You know what those folks get? They get the fingers from the IRS.

About the AIDS you said: Probably they just bring back the AIDS that some horny Americans spreaded down there when they go to Tijuana looking for "putas."

About "not having the right to be here": Like I said before, go do your homework this time. If the US is so into "Policing the world" why not put your money where your mouth is. Enforce the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

So what your saying is, that you know me. My wife is asian from the Philippines, I was stationed there for more than eight years. I have help many friends with the legal immigration process while we were processing hers. Yes I do know the process. Obviously more than you do. As far as the IRS is concerned if you didn't pay why should you get a return. But you already know that correct, something about a Social Security Number perhaps? Oh yes and a right to work permit for those on work visa's. Sounds to me that I struck a chord with you. So let me tell you this. I am an American, my wife is a naturalized American we work and pay taxes. I send my kids to public schools. I am an average joe working guy. Sounds to me that you might be Hispanic with the "putas" reference. I absolutley do not have a problem with folks that come here legaly, but I do have a problem with the one that don't. Latinos by far are hardworking honest folks. I have a lot of Mexican friends and neighbors. But since I do pay taxes I have the right to tell you and everyone else what I think. You obviously have a chip on your shoulder. There are many people that make up this country we are all a bunch of immigrants. When an undocumented illegal walks into an emergency room at the county hospital it cost the taxpayer, when school is full of kids who can't speak english, that takes away from the rest of the students. If you don't believe me come to San Diego, go to a elementary school and talk to the teachers. Talk to the county administrators, on the cost of keeping clinics open. Everyone of them will tell you the same thing. The number of illegals using the system are overwhelming. Those systems are all taxpayer funded. So explain to me how a person who has no Social Security Number, no right to work stamp in a passport, has no taxes taken out of their pay contribute to the social system. So your evaluation of me is totally unqualified.

after bush came into office i began thinking about what the anti-christ actually could be. off the bat i realized the anti-christ would not be a man. it would be the opposition of a man. it would have to be a woman. throughout history women have been the bringers of the greatest tyranny. *think bloody mary. anyway, i thought to myself about semiramis in babylon and began to do some research. my personal conclusion was that if hilary clinton began to speak of the good samaritan, it was key to my belief that if she also became president, she would be the one to bring america to its knees. rally against diebold voting machines people. rigged elections will bring forth hell.

Im not a christian. Its pretty obvious that passing a law that criminalizes any offer of help to underprivileged / poor people is not in keeping with christian teachings. Your biblical technicalities about legal / nonlegal and jesus wanted you to obey the law are ridiculous. Would jesus have wanted you to obey Nazi Law? The same arguments apply. I think not. Clinton is right on.