What is it about liberals that they are so compelled to belittle and berate our president and country in general when their feet are on foriegn soil? If this is some kind of new patriotism - count me out; I still love my country!

Well that's hardly his 'sharpest attack yet'. I haven't forgotten his "HE BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY" rant from back before the 2004 election.

As to why they do it when they're out of the country, the only thing I can figure is they're playing to their audience, which they perceive to be anti-American. Which is a damn shame because people in Europe or wherever don't need to be reinforced in that.

I dunno, it seems as if Dems don't care if the country the purport to want to lead is virtually destroyed in the process of their winning the right to lead it. It is hard to figure out the logic behind their thinking.

ooohhh...Like conservatives aren't as bad...Go google Republican and Hillary and see how many flattering things are said about the junior Senator from NY. last time I checked, she was still part of the govt too.

Actually, its interesting that conservatives automatically think of GWB. Al's quote from the artice:

Denying that his politics have shifted to the left since he lost the court battle for the 2000 election, Mr Gore says: "If you have a renegade band of rightwing extremists who get hold of power, the whole thing goes to the right."

Seems like he's making a statement about the Republican party rather than GWB. Where could he have gotten that idea...

Hmm. What is up with the left? Man for the life of me I cannot figure it out.

Is it reading comprehension, or poor grasp of simple English? Memory loss? Simple dishonesty? Logical failure? Ignorance of civics? Lack of interest in or knowledge of even recent history?

"Seems like he's making a statement about the Republican party rather than GWB."

See matt a, you can tell he's talking about Bush because he uses the term "US Administration", which actually, you know, has a specific meaning that's pretty well universally accepted. For example, if someone says something about the "Clinton Administration", you can pretty much take it to the bank that they aren't talking about Carl Levin, who is and was a senator from Michigan.

Sorry to post twice so rapidly CY....this behavior or thinking or whatever it is just baffles me.

"Seems like he's making a statement about the Republican party rather than GWB."

matt a, I believe the following quote from the linked "Guardian" article would seem to shatter your premise that Gore's comment is directed toward the GOP in general.

"Al Gore has made his sharpest attack yet on the George Bush presidency, describing the current US administration as "a renegade band of rightwing extremists"."

I call Gore is 'Fredo' because he likes to take sides against the family; especially when he's abroad

Dwilkers, OS - That's not what Al said. You see for something to be a quote from someone, it must be in quotes. The author was very clear in what he was quoting from Mr. Gore and what he wasn't. Substituting the author's interpretation for actual statements of facts is classic spin. Last time I checked, a band is more than one person so recalling civics in that there are 3 branches of govt and that one political party (hmmm bigger than 1 person? yep) currently controls two of them and has leveraged their influence on the third logically he could just as easily be discussing the Republican party.

For some reason, the comment submission found the words "moved" "to" objectionable but get rid of "to" and put 2 and it works. So I had to add a seperate post:

Again, this is about the rhetoric (renegade) more than anything else. I would think conservatives would be proud that the country has moved 2 the right and applaud Al for at least being willing to acknowledge it.

It is amazing the effect that Bush has on the left. If they would take a deep breath and look at the man a bit more objectively they would see LBJ. For my money he is a rabid lefty.

Matt a, first of all, I did not state that the Algore comment was directed solely at GWB. I generalized about liberals on foreign soil speaking poorly about our “president and country.” However, it was unmistakably clear to Oliver Burkeman and Jonathan Freedland (the Guardian reporters who coauthored the linked article) that Al Gore’s comment (“a renegade band of rightwing extremists.”) was directed at “the George Bush presidency.” If the reporters had believed Mr Gore was generalizing about the GOP, wouldn’t have been likely they would have worded their report more along the lines of, “Al Gore has made his sharpest attack yet on the GOP, describing the current political majority as "a renegade band of rightwing extremists".

If you don’t want to take ownership of Al Gore, that’s understandable, but don’t play word footsie games with me about his over seas rantings.

OS - Hilarious...Now you want to take the word of reporters with obvious liberal leanings!! If they reported on anyone/thing else you wouldn't give them any kind of credibility whatsoever. But hey, if they decide to interpret comments by Al Gore in your favor, then they must be right!

I'm not playing word footsies with ya, just not willing to hold people to what is said about them rather than what they say...

JFK would be a rabid right wing extremist by Al Gore's yardstick.

"OS - Hilarious...Now you want to take the word of reporters with obvious liberal leanings!!"

Matt a, I do not believe you are conveniently interpreting the written words of reporters whom you have labelled "liberal". I took their words at face value, but they weren't liberal enough for your liking, so you've interpolated them into something entirely different. It is impossible to carrying on a conversation with someone hung up on a circle argument, so, perhaps some other time...

This photo should be the subject of a caption contest. Now, is Gore hawking Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, synthetic THC, or Carter's Little Liver Pills?

a. "I use these to create my own global warming."
b. "Tipper uses these to warm her globes."
c. "One each day and you can drink the water in Ouagadogou."
d. "I got more of these. $100 per vial. All small bills."

This thread is only limited by the reader's inventiveness and the Confederate Yankee's patience.

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OS - My apologies, attacking the messenger is obviously only a conservative ploy. If you don't think there is a liberal base out there that wants Al Gore to run again, you've got your head buried too deep somewhere. This is obviously meant to help keep hope alive for that. I don't conveniently interpret anything. That's what the reporters are doing. Then you conveniently interpret what they interpret as what Al Gore means. When it suits your agenda of bemoaning "liberals" and their "new patriotism of anti-love for the country". That's convenient.

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