Waiting on Harry Reid to declare this war lost and over.

Bob, I really have no problem with them pushing Obama into the nomination. He'd actually probably be easier to beat than Hillary.

Yeah, at this point Hillary may be the stronger candidate. Still, it is amusing to watch Obama act like a pansy...

So this would be what, the 22nd debate between these two? Like anyone really needs to see another one of these. I don't, especially if it amounts to watching Obama get hounded with inane and irrelevant questions about flag lapel pins and former pastors. For cripes sakes, enough already.

Yeah, Arb, such things are just a distraction from the real issues.

Funny how you probably didn't think that way when Bush's Texas Air National Guard service was brought up in 2000 or 2004.

One more, Arb, you might check out this article from the anti-Cheney magazine The Nation:

In the circles in which Cheney has traveled throughout his career, Libby might come off as a paragon of virtue and veracity. That ought not much trouble prosecutors, however. The vice president is his own man, and he plays by his own set of rules. Just as Cheney has never felt constrained by any Constitutional definition of duty to the republic, nor has he ever provided even the slightest indication that he is familiar with the textbook definition of "honesty" – let alone with the notion that an official ought to value that quality in those with whom he chooses to associate.

(emphasis added by me.)

Hmmm... when it comes to Mr. Cheney, we can look at "those with whom he chooses to associate," but that's off limit for Mr. Obama?

Double-standard, anyone?

Deciding not to wear a flag lapel pin and going out of one's way to avoid service in a foreign war...hmm, I'd say not quite on the same level of triviality.

I will agree though that a double standard exists.
There was never a comparable controversy that I can recall about Bush and his "good friend" Pat Robertson. This is the guy who said 9/11 was God's way of punishing America for the supposed error of its ways...not too far off from Jeremiah Wright's comments which have has caused such a tizzy in conservative circles.

So you think that service in the National Guard isn't good enough huh? Screw you buddy.

one thing to remember cbu, arbo is as dence as a tree

"dence as a tree"

I love irony.

What might it be that Obama is afrain to reveal? We know where he stands on the issues. That depends on who he is speaking to. To gun owners he is pro 2nd Amendment. To Hillary Clinton supporters, he is the finger and a smirk. To American he is a danger. Arbo, what will you bet B. Hussein can recite the first six verses of the Koran?

Afrain (sic) to reveal.

What exactly was said at the meeting between Cheney and energy company representatives?
Probably not anyone's business but those involved and their bosses. Who exactly does Cheney work for?
(Hint: the citizens of the U.S.).

What is he afrain (sic) of?

C-C-G,

Why won't the media inform the public that Jeremiah Wright was a marine?

Robert, probably because, in the eyes of the left (which is to say, most of the media), Marines are baby-killers and torturers who enjoy shooting innocent Iraqis just to satisfy their bloodlust. Therefore, to call Reverend Wright a Marine would be, in their eyes, to impugn him.

By the way, Arb, I tried to post this earlier but the spam filter was choking on anything with a "ch" in it, so I wasn't able to. Here it is now.

Your darling lefties in the media did try to make a big issue out of Mr. Robertson's comments, as well as Mr. Falwell's (who said essentially the same thing). In fact, they tried it more than once.

So, why did it never gain traction? Simple. The American people aren't quite as stupid as you--and the lefties in the media--think they are.

They realize that an unsolicited endorsement from a crackpot is just that, unsolicited. And it's a lot different from sitting in a church led by a crackpot for 20+ years.

They also realize that an unsolicited endorsement from a loony televangelist is quite a different thing from having a campaign event in the personal home of a terrorist who, years later, says he doesn't think he did enough.

The American public is intelligent enough to see the difference, Arb. It's a crying shame you apparently aren't.

There was never a comparable controversy that I can recall about Bush and his "good friend" Pat Robertson.

Your recollection is faulty. Robertson was roundly hammered and apologized for the comments, which is why they've never been a huge deal beyond the huge deal they were at the time. The Bush Administration also repudiated them.

So, Arbo, how was that a controversy about Bush?

Arb seems to be unable to grasp the concept that the fact that he knows about the Robertson comments is prima facie evidence that the media did try to make it into a big story. How could he have known about them if they hadn't reported it (since I doubt he watches Fox News)?

Ya gotta love it when your opponent is so clueless he refutes his own points.