CY:

I wonder if the Obamamaniacs are learning the meaning of "buyer's remorse" yet.

What were Nixon's crimes again? You know, the worst president ever, hated by millions and referenced as the greatest con in Presidential history?

That's right, Nixon was guilty not of breaking and entering in the Watergate burglary, but of LYING about his association with and awareness of the criminals.

Now we have Ayers admitting that Obama lied about his association with the unprosecuted, unrepentent domestic terrorist who was instrumental in the death of people in his conspiracy to blow up Federal buildings? (Incidentally, just how does Ayers escape prosecution when I had understood murder and felony manslaughter had no statute of limitations?) Now we know one thing about Obama: before even taking office, he's a worse criminal than Nixon.

Poor Ayers...If only he had posessed the foresight to enlist in the US Navy or Air force, he could have bombed and slaughtered as many people as he wanted. Not only would he not have had to go into hiding, he could have run for president.

Red, I think Ayers got off on the proverbial "technicality". I think the judge was underwhelmed with the actions of the PD and the prosecution.

He will have it spun by the media, who he has in his back pocket, as something else other than a lie, and the masses that voted for him will believe it. I have noticed that you cannot sway or logically talk to a liberal socialist, they just do not comprehend what you say. We are in big big bama trouble.

The excerpt also acknowledges the fundraiser in the Ayers house to launch The One.

That was denied by him and the campaign.

Nonetheless, The One gets a pass on all of this because even though Ayers is an unrepentent Marxist pseudo-revolutionary, he gets a great big bear hug from the Lefties because his heart is in the right place. That is how he got made respectable in the academy.

Did the Weathermen ever announce a truce after their Declaration of War on America? They didn't have to, they became the establishment.

The Lame Stream Media has became the state (democrat) ran media. Even the fact that 'not as many' of them are needed (thousands already out of a job) under the state run media hasn't opened their eyes. Maybe when they get down to one outlet and millions of former 'news' employees are on the unemployment line they will wake up. But then it will be too late, they will have bacame shift supervisors, or whatever they call you after 30 days of employment, at McDonalds.

mrlizard, too bad the AF hasn't accidently dropped an armed 500 pound bomb on your hole.

Gus - good point. Didn't realize Ayers had his day in court. Was it his wife then that wore out those pursuing her for her crimes and never saw justice?

There are some nice things about the upcoming Obama administration:

1. Minorities no longer have a right to a chip on their shoulder. We're all in it equally now.
2. Federal documents (like birth records, selective service registration, taxes) don't really have to be accurate to be called good.
3. If your neighbor has something nicer than you, it's yours!

It's gonna be a fun four years.

>Red, I think Ayers got off on the proverbial "technicality". I think the judge was underwhelmed with the actions of the PD and the prosecution.

"Guilty as sin, free as a bird," is what Ayers has been quoted as saying when he was let go.

...and to mrlizard: Die in a fire.

At a function with some pretty close friends who happen to be deep blue Ohio folks and assuming I am the same they spoke quite bitterly post-election about the Ayers "slander" declaring it not merely untrue, not merely overstated but an outright fabrication; McCarthyite of course, that had absolutely no grounding in fact. Camille Paglia of all people has dressed down the media for their failure to reveal the simplest of known facts. Will they ever hear this? Ayers shut his yap for tactical reasons. The necessity for that has passed. I think we know him well enough to expect the oral diarhea to continue and escalate.

MrLizard, John McCain and the other military men of yester- or this year do what they do under orders from a consensual government formed under our Constitution. This government is not infallible but the contrast to a handful of uber-wealthy malcontents bent on blowing up six or eight dozen debutantes to make the point that War Is Bad is plain to anyone with the sense or the soul of a fruit fly. You should eat more fruit.

The mere tip of the iceberg. Obama lied his ass off through the whole campaign. He bought all the votes that made him prez with money he has no hope to ever have for "programs" that will never materialize. How those asshats going to act than? Will they feel betrayed? Blame it all on residual "Bush" policy? No. I think they'll stay stupid, they're liberals after all.
I love the Mark Twain line: "Suppose you were a dishonest, incompetent, and immoral liar, and you were a member of congress?....But then I repeat myself." I EXPECT such behavior from Obama, or any democrat, for that matter.

"That's right, Nixon was guilty not of breaking and entering in the Watergate burglary, but of LYING about his association with and awareness of the criminals."

- Redherkey

What's your point? That Obama is complicit in crimes committed by the Weathermen when he was young boy because he has had associations with Ayers as an adult man, decades later? How the hell does that compute?

"Now we have Ayers admitting that Obama lied about his association with the unprosecuted, unrepentent domestic terrorist who was instrumental in the death of people in his conspiracy to blow up Federal buildings? (Incidentally, just how does Ayers escape prosecution when I had understood murder and felony manslaughter had no statute of limitations?) Now we know one thing about Obama: before even taking office, he's a worse criminal than Nixon."

Again, the fact that Ayers has been unprosecuted is not a point against Obama, you moron. Furthermore, you really reveal your basic ignorance of Ayers and the Weathermen in that they targeted inanimate objects and never killed or seriously injured one person.

But the bottom line here is why Obama has any direct link to the unprosecuted "crimes" of Ayers simply because he worked with the man decades after they were attempted?

Nixon, for god's sake, was directly linked to the work of G. Gordon Liddy (a man for whom McCain is very fond) and the plumbers. There's just no logical basis for making such an analogy.

y'all is dumber than rocks ...

Actually Ayers has the blood of four or five Weathermen on his hands. It was a bomb of his design that nearly blew up Dustin Hoffman all those years ago. That is called felony homicide but since I'm glad those freaks are dead and regret only that Ayers, miserable creep that he is, was not present that shouldn't count. You will find however two fatalities tied unambiguously to the Weather Underground but their incompetence should not be a defense. They declared war on the US, prosecuted it and failed miserably. They did not target inanimate objects; just missed. This is cool? The lunatic Symbionese Liberation Army of Patty Hearst fame was also a Weather off-shoot for folks who found these greasy commies too soft.
Ayers escaped incarceration, as I understand it, because so much of the evidence against him was gleaned through wiretaps conducted by intelligence agencies without warrants as opposed to the FBI and was inadmissible. Ayers, proud puke that he is, has always slyly claimed credit for the broad actions of his crew while never speaking of specifics which might provide an untainted path to the hoosgow. Ayers can claim great influence on the events of today however, not least because it was the inability to prosecute that floating turd that showed the Patriot Act a necessity for the GWOT. Barry's culpability may well be dismissed under the flag of ignorance if you must dismiss it (and the Obies must) but the truly tainting association here is that Ayers picked Obama as a vehicle for his own political aspirations. If you are unclear on those Mr Ayers promises further clarifications. We can be certain these will not be of an explosive nature at least until Barack is back in Hyde Park. Hopefully.

Bob,

I'm feeling elated still, thanks for asking. I still look forward to the restoration of the rule of law and adult governance.

How do I feel about Bill Ayers? Meh. This nation has more important issues to address. Though I hope the Republicans don't - please keep running this all the way through 2012. With Sarah Palin. Palin 2012!

"Seriously, you guys are hilarious, pathetic, and apparently really, really stupid, but mostly just tiny and completely inconsequential."

Acorvid - I think you've got some cognitive dissonance going on here. We didn't believe Obama's obvious lies about his relationship with Ayers in the first place. Ayers now confirms that the relationship was more extensive than Obama let on during the campaign and you say we are the ones with the problem?

Dude, get a grip.

When I was a kid, one of my father's pinochle friends was a loud, unrepentant anti-semite. He was, technically, a family friend.

When I was a resident, I took care of many felons, including and old guy who had shot some kids to get them off of his lawn. By caring for them I gave them aid and comfort.

I guess that makes me a rabid pro-crime anti-semite.

I can see by the third-grade taunting that one of the far left blogs must have linked.

Sugarbiscuit, are you and your numb allies really so ignorant as to believe Ayers and his cronies never killed anyone?

San Francisco Police Officer Brian V. MacDonald was killed by Bernadine Dohrn, Ayers wife, according to FBI informant Larry Grathwohl, who heard the story directly from a bragging Ayers.

Dohrn later did time for her suspected role the Brinks Armored car robbery in Nyack, NY that left two other policemen and a Brinks guard dead. By the way, this occurred while Ayers, Dohrn, and your messiah all lived in the same Columbia University neighborhood while Obama was a college student, not an eight-year old.

Under the direction of Ayers, the Weather Underground also attempted three mass murders, the bombing of a soldier's dance at Fox Dix, and two blast targeting police targets in Detroit. Al three of these terrorist attack were designed to kill as many people as possible, including police officers, soldiers, and civilians.

The Fort Dix blast, of course, never happened, as Ayers girlfriend and a couple of other would be bombers had a case of premature detonation, destroying a Greenwich Village townhome instead. The two attempts of mass terrorist bombings in Detroit--including one that would have flattened a restaurant filled with African-American diners that Ayers wrote off as acceptable collateral damage--was thwarted by informant Grathwohl.

Your messiah is the protege of a failed terrorist, instead of a successful one. And you think that is worth being proud of?

"I guess that makes me a rabid pro-crime anti-semite."

dr. luba - Only if that is what you want to call yourself. Most people wouldn't but progressives are kind of nutty. Otherwise, it's bad logic.

You are not responsible for your father's card playing friend.

You had a hippocratic oath to treat the criminals. It's not like they were asking you to give them Ru486 against their religious beliefs or anything, was it?

Dohrn later did time for her suspected role the Brinks Armored car robbery

Surely, that can't be right? Can you do time for stuff that you are suspected of? Don't you have to be convicted?

Dohrn did seven months in the early 1980s--far less than she deserves for her role as a terrorist--for refusing to testify in front of the grand jury. The stolen IDs used to rent the vehicles used in the Brinks robbery were traced back to Dohrn's shop, and they jailed her in contempt when she refused to testify about the extent of her role.

Within a decade after her release, she presumably met a Michelle Robinson at work in a Chicago law firm, and there are said to be witnesses to Dohrn babysitting her two young girls in more recent years. Of course, Robinson's name is Obama now.

Wow! What a SHOCK-A!!! Prez. elect Obama-lama-ding-dong LIED(!!!???) to his synchophantic droogs? Say it ain't so, Prez! Say it ain't so!

Are y'all sure this is worth getting worked up on a friday night over? I mean, honestly, Bill Ayers? Why would you allow something like this to occupy that much mental space?

David Geffin, the billionaire Hollywod king pin who dumped the Clintons for Obama, said "All politicions lie". He went on to say he could not support Hillary because, in his opinion, her husband had lied so much he had become "reckless". Obama lied about Ayers, but to the public who elected him this was not only not reckless, but irrelevant since he promised them so much, mostly in the form of someone else's cash, in return for passing over his lies. Over a million people will pay to see their saint inaugerated in January. He will take command of a government with no effective opposition left to his will, at least initially, and perhaps for years. An improving economy and success in Iraq, both of which he will have had little to do with, may strenghten him even further. The situation will be unprecedented, even compared with 1932 and 1963. Will he be the leader of a country or the selfish leader of a party only? He showed some class when he reminded the scum sucking press of his mother's age at his birth when they were leering at Palin's daughter, and perhaps some real fragility when he referred to himself as a mutt. But these were only two episodes in a campaign of otherwise continuous deception, a real sign of internal weakness.. He owes a lot to others. If he is strong he won't pay them everything he owes. If not we'll all pay more than we bargined for.

"Why would you allow something like this to occupy that much mental space?"

heh - I was taking a break from polishing my light bulbs. What's your excuse for getting worked up enough about this to come here and comment about it? Seems like it's not a good use of your mental energy based on your comment.

Boy, was it ever satisfying to watch you folks drown in your misguided ignorance. I won't be back anymore now because you're irrelevant, and there are more important things for me to do.

Bravo, Daley! You took the words right out of my mouth!

Swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool this fine evening has been so enlightening.

Bon Soir

And let me point out to you, the American people will not, as you say, give Obama a pass on even 10% as much crap as they gave Bush. Fortunately, there's not a human alive that could reach that magic 10%. Out here in the real world, we're so worn out by King Bizarro-Midas, it's gonna take us a lot to get outraged again. Just ask the youngest child in a family of ten how much shit he can get away with before his folks will call him on it; you'll see what I mean.

Kevin - Is anybody writing about Ayers over there at racistdogfakes? I know you only stopped by to comment because you really don't care about this, but just wanted a few belly laughs over what the rubes on the right were saying.

How do I feel? Far better than the blood-drenched dupes who ever got suckered into casting a vote (or, God help them, two) for deadly Dumya. The funny part is 10-20 years from now all you Bushies will deny ever having voted for him, such is your cowardice and lack of character.

The real problem is that the whole country is about to be led astray because so many people are willfully ignorant.
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/

The real problem here is that the whole country is about to be led astray because so many people are willfully ignorant.
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/

Obama's associations with Ayers and Dohrn are relevent, as is the fact that Barack won't release his Columbia or Harvard transcripts. The Dems had lots of fun joking about Bush's C average at Yale; what kind of student was Obama?

Tom TB:

What kind of student was Obama?

From Wikianswers:

"After graduating high school from Punahou School in Hawaii, Barack Obama attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review's first black president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School."

Looks like he was a very good student.

I know that some people in the States prefer that their elected officials be pampered affirmative action sons of rich people who only get into prestgious places of learning because the building they are living in is named after their grandfather, others want those who are actually intelligent. ;-)

Brendan:

I quit reading your nonsense a long time ago.

That's obviously a lie, since you had to read the page in order to comment on it.

I'd say better luck next time, but that wouldn't be true.

Nobody cares about Ayers except for those who are predisposed to care about Ayers.

mck - Well, nobody cares about Ayers except those who have issues with their President-elect cavorting with unrepentant marxist terrorists and lying about the relationship. Sharing views about social justice and education is another thing that Obama, Ayers and Rev. Wright also have in common, but a lot of people want to ignore that as well.

Ayers complains that using guilt by association is a terrible political tactic. For the left it is a convenient political tactic. They screamed holy hell about George Bush knowing Ken Lay, but completely ignored the relationship between Bill Clinton and Ken Lay. For the left, history starts today.

Right on the money, CY

While being friends with marxist domestic terrorists is a reasonable issue--though not for folks who clearly give killers a pass as long as they are doing it to push the USA to the left--there are other issues now.

Like how we were lied to during the entire campaign regarding BO's relationship with Ayers. BO--and the press--had zero compunction to lie to all of us. And, to make it worse, BO and his cronies did not even care enough to maintain the lie for more than a week or so after he was elected. A disturbing combination of dishonesty and arrogance.

What's next? What were BO's other intentional lies during the campaign? Does this concern anyone who voted for him? Do you really think he only lied to get the independents' vote and that BO didn't lie to get your vote too?

"Your messiah is the protege of a failed terrorist, instead of a successful one. And you think that is worth being proud of?"

Bwah hah hah hah.

I love how you conservatives insist on peddling this "Obama as messiah" story. That's all in your fevered little minds. My messiah is Christ, and apparently yours is not, because you certainly don't seem to know your commandments. The election is over. You lost. People aren't buying what you're selling. When will you realize that your extreme brand of conservatism has failed in the market place of ideas, just like communism?

You're partially right, William. George W. Bush's "compassionate" big-government, big-spending, open-borders policies aren't selling.

So, let's see how successful those same policies are when tried by Barack Hussein Obama.

William - Louis Farrakhan is the one who first called Obama "The Messiah." The rest of us simply mock that title.

You've been conned in to voting the family friend of a known terrorist into the White House.

Well, ~30% of those were in favor of Ayers and Wright having a friend in the White House. So they (folks like William) are pleased that they put one over on the rest of us.

Obama himself could be revealed to be another Ted Bundy and have a dozen bodies buried in his back yard and it simply wouldn't matter.

"I can see by the third-grade taunting that one of the far left blogs must have linked.

Sugarbiscuit, are you and your numb allies really so ignorant as to believe Ayers and his cronies never killed anyone?"

- Confederate Yankee

Um, until Ayers is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of killing anyone, yeah I'm going to choose to be "so ignorant" as to believe Ayers didn't kill anyone.

That's the rule of law, you reactionary tool.

Mr. Lizard,

Here's my concern. Obama is real smart and didn't bomb the US Capitol... he ran for President. And he and Ayers are just alike in their communist plans.

Did you know the Weathermen stated that it would be necessary to kill 25 million Americans to put Marxist Socialism into place here in the US??

Would you have "buyers remorse"... then?? If a man with the shared goals as Ayer's got into office of President??

You said this, "Poor Ayers...If only he had posessed the foresight to enlist in the US Navy or Air force, he could have bombed and slaughtered as many people as he wanted. Not only would he not have had to go into hiding, he could have run for president."

Lemme ask you a question. If Ayers was elected President, that man who supports Chavez in Venezuela in forcing socialism on the people there as a dictator, that man whose group said they'd kill 25 million Americans to force on America what has been forced on Venezuela by Ayers' friend Chavez, well... what do you think Ayers would do with the military under his control, etc, etc., from the office of President??

Did it ever occur to you that Obama may just be... his shadow?? And may do just what Ayers would do??

In other words, what are you thinking??

William E. Canning,

You are not a Christian. The Bible says that no murderer has eternal life.

You don't know the commandments: thou shalt not kill.

You voted for a man who voted to let babies born alive after failed attempts at prenatal murder be killed - murdered EVEN AFTER having been born alive by God's own grace after an baby-killing doctor attempted prenatal murder.

You pro-abortion thugs are straight from hell and children of the devil.

You're not Christians.

The Bible says that no murderer has eternal life.

You're going to hell and none of your denials line up with what the Bible says: no murderer has any place in Heaven.

You are going to hell... and your attempt to use the name of Jesus Christ will result in "I never knew you."

Don't lie to me. You are no disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. You are a murderer and Satan himself is a murderer. You are his child.

Don't lie like your daddy the devil.

Tell me, sugarbiscuit, by your own standards, doesn't that also mean that George W. Bush is not a "murderer" as the anti-war folks like to claim, because he himself has never been convicted of it?

Funny how that double standard works, isn't it?

ukobserver is obviously ignorant of the definition of "affirmative action". As for the presumptive genius of Barack Obama, the first black editor of Harvard Law... NEVER wrote a single article? Not even BEFORE becoming editor? Howzat?Like the Presidency this office is filled by election not on scholarly merit. Barry was a glad-hander's glad hander much like Rhodes Scholar without portfolio Bill Clinton. The intelligence of Barack Obama is, like the stupidity of George Bush, something declared rather than demonstrated. Bush's Brain awaits the judgement of history and we know already that the Obies are finding many of his policies are actually merely common sense, as on FISA. Barry's Brain is just now getting its first public airing. I'm breathless....

Once-A-Marine-Always-A-Marine:

President Elect Obama’s Challenge: The Campaign Speaks To “Radicalism.” National Review Online (NRO) By: Stanley Kurtz Posted On: September 23, 2008 7:00 AM:
http://xn--obamas%20challengethe%20campaign%20spea ...

“The Chicago Annenberg Challenge stands as Barack Obama’s most important executive experience to date. By its own account, CAC was a largely a failure.

And a series of critical evaluations point to reasons for that failure, including a poor strategy, to which the foundation over-committed in 1995, and over-reliance on community organizers with insufficient education expertise.

The failure of CAC thus raises entirely legitimate questions, both about Obama’s competence, his alliances with radical community organizers, and about Ayers’s continuing influence over CAC and its board, headed by Obama.

Above all, by continuing to fund Ayers’s personal projects, and those of his political-educational allies, Obama was lending moral and material support to Ayers’s profoundly radical efforts.

Ayers’s terrorist history aside that makes the Ayers-Obama relationship a perfectly legitimate issue in this campaign.”

**Note: Many young Americans in uniform (men & women), upon returning home from the War in Viet Nam, to include others like myself who volunteered to fight in the War, but, for what ever reason, never set foot on Viet Nam, were spit on, called baby killers, refused service at some public establishments and threatened with our own lives by individuals and/or groups, the likes of Bill Ayers and his cronies, who were blaming us for the War, and, as a result, we were ordered by our base commanders to go low profile and not wear our uniforms when traveling off our home bases, thereby not attracting attention to ourselves.

I found this to be deplorable because, we were serving our Country, which we had given our oath to defend and, literally, had nothing to do with the politics of starting the War.

And to add insult to injury, when President Elect Obama, was an Illinois Senator he had the VA initiate an IG investigation in 2005 into the possible fraud of VA Service-Connected Disability Compensation Benefits by those Veteran’s that were receiving 100% Unemployability benefits due to their Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

These Veterans were the most vulnerable due to their PTSD condition, and had worked for many years (approx. 30 years) to get those benefits granted by the VA.

As a result one of my very close Viet Nam Veterans, who was a Purple Heart recipient, ended up committing suicide in October of 2005 because, he was concerned that his benefits would be taken away from him and, subsequently, his spouse.

Note: My, approximately, sixty-two (62) years of hands on eye-opening experiences with both men and women in uniform and Veterans came from: enlisting at the age of seventeen (17) and honorably serving my country for twenty (20) years, as a Marine Corps Mustang (served as an Enlisted and a Commissioned Officer), my father’s, approximately, forty (40) year battle with his PTSD symptoms, as a result of his military service during WWII, and my four (4) year tenure as a State Veterans Service Officer.

I served in the Marine Corps during the course of the entire Viet Nam War (1964-1984), where I lost many of my close young American friends, and my post-military retirement experiences as a State Veterans' Service Officer, where I continued to loose some of my close Viet Nam Veteran friends due to suicide.

To include my own father, who survived the Battle of The Bulge during WWII, but lost his own battle with PTSD at the young age of fifty-nine (59), due to his approximately forty (40) years of self-medicating with alcohol, like many of his WWII Veteran friends.

In 2006, I also was diagnosed as suffering from PTSD, which gives me some insight into what these young Americans returning home from combat are dealing with and was able to best assist them to deal with their symptoms, during my four (4) years as a State Veterans' Service Officer.

A position which I, to this day, believe was one of my most rewarding and self satisfying positions that I’ve served in during my approximately forty-four (44) year professional career because I was able to, once in for all, honorably serve those individuals that have given so much for their country by assisting them and their loved ones to apply for and be granted their entitled and, much deserved, VA benefits.

Note: This is, extremely, ironic that approximately forty (40) some years later our President Elect Is AMIGOS with this TERRORIST.

Although, I know That I am NOT being politically correct, because he and some of his 1960s cronies (now all college professors) don't consider him a FORMER TERRORIST-he was just a rich young college kid that was bored with life and, instead of getting drafted to go fight for his country, he entertained himself by setting off bombs in his own country, although, they all say that those bombs were never intended to hurt or kill people-sounds like someone else that once said, "I smoked pot and never inhaled"), but, I feel strongly that “ONCE-A-TERRORIST-ALWAYS-A-TERRORIST”.

(New) Is President Elect Obama being blackmailed by other high ranking officials here at home and abroad?:
http://blog.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel

BOTTOM LINE: If my concerns are proven to have MERIT, which, tragically, the American people may NOT even find out about until after President Elect Obama takes office and governs our country for the next four years, all I can hope and pray for, this late in the game, is that my concerns are unfounded, but if they are NOT: “Good Bless Our United (Not Divided) States of America.”

"FOOD FOR THOUGHT”

Semper Fi!