June 05, 2009
Obama's Approval Plummets
Did you ever wonder how long an ideologue recycling old philosophies would be able to pull one over on the American electorate after taking power, even if the media was doing their best to champion him as the best think since sliced bread? Well, we have an answer.
As jobs continue to be lost despite media reporting designed to disguise the truth, we may be seeing America's love affair with Hope and Change dying just months into a new Presidency.
But why is that?
While there are books that can (and no doubt will) be written about this recession and Obama's role in mismanaging it, we don't need the hindsight of history to know simple economics. You can't spend your way out of debt. Spending more when you're already in debt simply gets you deeper in debt. My nine-year-old gets this.
My President does not.
America is coming to grips with the fact our President is far out of his depth. He's a gifted orator, but speeches are not solutions.
He had no solutions. He has rhetoric.
He also has a sincere, irrational belief that more government involvement is the solution to almost any problem. But as almost everyone else knows, all government does in inhibit progress and retard growth with bureaucracy and inefficiency.
The number one domestic threat to the United States at this moment is a President that thinks government is the solution instead of the problem.
The polls are finally beginning to reflect that fact.
Mr. "I WON" is not a gifted orator. He has somewhat gifted, but mostly lying speech writers who make this stuff up for him. Without his speech flowing on the TOTUS, he is an imbecil who cannot string 4 words together without screwing it up. Token Education, Token Job, Token President.
Posted by: TimothyJ at June 5, 2009 01:21 PMWe are so screwed. Zimbabwe's economy will be looking good by the time Teh Mess-iah gets done with ours. Impeachment/resignation just gets us President Biden. They both quit and it's President Pelosi? Gotta' go read the Constitution.
I'm looking for an up-side - throw me a bone...
Posted by: Diogenes Online at June 5, 2009 01:33 PMGovernment has a job to do, but it has grown beyond the bounds set in our constitution, I hated the bailouts that Bush pushed thru and when Obama continued massive bailouts I knew he was more than a mere moslem determined to destroy democracy, this man is a lunatic and we must survive 3years + some months under his rule, the upside is that I think we will survive, Americans are great and we are a christian country and God has blessed us in the past, we can survive Obama. God bless America.
Posted by: duncan at June 5, 2009 02:25 PMYou don't spend millions to hide things if you've got nothing to hide. Sorry CY but that's the truth, get the man's real birth certificate and impeach him. Granted that only gets us the "Dumber" part of "Dumb & Dumber" as president...
Posted by: Scott at June 5, 2009 03:34 PMWhen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present President of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
Posted by: Scott at June 5, 2009 03:37 PMI no longer believe that Biden is dumber than BHO... I'd welcome his promotion.
Posted by: Norbinski at June 5, 2009 04:13 PMI love irony. Many on the left couldn't figure out that even though W's numbers were down it didn't follow that more people were going left, it just meant that those of us on the right figured out W was a big-government yahoo and didn't like it.
Obama isn't leftist enough for the left and we on the right know him for what he is - a socialist or worse - so his numbers are destined for the sub-basement of history.
Now we have leftists like Ted Rall jumping all over Obama I think I'll just sit right back and watch as the leftards start flaying each other as their party disintegrates from within. We don't have to do anything, the left will provide the material themselves.
Nothin' like a nice tall glass of 'I told ya so.'
Posted by: NevadaDailySteve at June 5, 2009 04:15 PMWait until they see the healthcare plans....
Our fanboy media are not fooling everyone, it would appear.
Posted by: Martin at June 5, 2009 04:24 PMScott says: "Granted that only gets us the "Dumber" part of "Dumb & Dumber" as president..."
I'm not so sure about that.
In any event, at least Biden doesn't seem to fervently hate America and our way of life. So maybe he won't be hell-bent on completely destroying it.
Posted by: jana at June 5, 2009 07:37 PMTo put this misleading "ZERO" approval rating into a more realistic perspective have a look here:
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
Nice try. But it ain't the TRUTH. Fact is, more than 60% of the American People have a favorable approval rating for President Obama.
The Rasmussen poll used the terms "Strongly Approve and Strongly Disapprove" when collecting their data.
I don't doubt their data at all. That pretty much reflects the extremes of our society. However, to say that because 34% of each extreme approves and disapproves equals a Zero approval rating is nothing short of dishonesty.
According to the results of the Rasmussen poll, one can truthfully say that 34% of the American people strongly disapprove of Obama. Period. One can also say that 34% of the American people strongly approve of Obama. Period. One cannot truthfully say that Obama has a Zero approval rating.
You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such misleading and dishonest drivel. Even though we more often than not disagree on most political issues, I have, at the very least, come to expect honesty from you, CY.
Posted by: Dude at June 5, 2009 11:27 PMYou're getting honesty from me, Dude. Too bad we can't get any reading comprehension out of you.
What the "0" indicates is that those who strongly disapprove with him is a wash for the first time when compared to those who strongly approve, not that his approval rating is zero.
If you can't read the chart correctly, perhaps you shouldn't comment.
posted by Dude at June 5, 2009 11:27 PM
Snicker, nice try by you rasmussen has consistently polled right on the money every time gallup? Not so much they consistently over poll in favor of democrats by ten or more points every time, but I will give you that gallup is certainly consistent, consistently wrong that is. Nice try right back atcha dude. But heck keep drinking the koolaid 2010 is a comin and then you will be back to whining again and one shot Obama will be gone in 2012 and he knows it that is why he and your fellow travelers in Obama fantasy land are pushing through the socialist legislation as fast as they can it won't make any difference though because the new conservative majority (note I did not type Republican) will repeal all or most of the crap with the willing help of the blue dog Democrats because by then the average stupid Obama voter will have realized that he has done nothing for them except raise their taxes and on that note what exactly has Obama done to change any of the Bush doctrine? Lets see Gitmo is shut down right? Oops nope, we have pulled out of Iraq nope (troop numbers have reduced a little back to presurge levels), Afghanistan (more troops being shipped there)? Nope, renditions? Oopsies nope, water boarding and enhanced interrogation techniques? Bwahahaha I have money that says Obama has a secret signing statement or executive memo that those are still allowed in a ticking time bomb type scenario. Oh I know gay mariage nope, gays serving in the military oops nope. Hmmm I know he has created those jobs you know the 3 million he promised uh oh no unemployment the worst since 1983 and rising to the tune on average of 600,000 a month poof gone oh dear what is an simp Obama believer to do? You see you and everyone who voted for Obama are morons no wait you are imbeciles and not very smart ones at that his talk is just that talk other wise known as rhetoric and you are drinking the koolaid by the gallon. What a bunch of rubes!
Posted by: Oldcrow at June 5, 2009 11:51 PMI find it very amusing that you Obama simps continue to support him yet he has done nothing for you, he has done plenty for his multi-national corporate donors, political cronies and big labor (and that is not the same thing as supporting the actual you know laborers) ah the sweet sweet smell of cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy.
Posted by: Oldcrow at June 6, 2009 12:01 AMOh and don't forget the banks, they got nice fat checks from you to, I say you because ain't nothing for free the money comes from us the tax payers, govmint takes at the point of a gun and gives it to all the a fore mentioned. Hows it feel to be giving the fat cats all that money? BewhahaA what a bunch of rubes you Obama supporters are. :)
Posted by: Oldcrow at June 6, 2009 12:05 AMNothing wrong with my reading comprehension skills:
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=4056
Like it or not, Obama STILL has an overall approval rating of more than 60%. You folks can color it any way that you wish. As one writer so succinctly stated recently (I forget who), the one thing that so called conservatives are most upset about now is the fact that they are no longer in charge. I will add to that: Thank God!!
I, too, am looking forward to 2010 and 2012.
Best Wishes to all............
Posted by: Dude at June 6, 2009 12:18 AMOh forgot the terrorist surveillance program oh uh that's right still going strong hmmm is there anything teh one has changed? Well yeah he has ensured that we will all be unemployed and living on welfare in a few more years that is if your local universal health care bureaucrat deems you are worth keeping alive that is.
Posted by: Oldcrow at June 6, 2009 12:26 AMWe survived Jimmy Carter so I think we'll survive Obama. We'll be a lot poorer but we're a resilient bunch.
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at June 6, 2009 11:58 AMA "gifted orator?" May I offer a different perspective informed by many years as a teacher of English, speech and theater?
Obama is, at best, a pedestrian public speaker, inflexible, plodding, and completely scripted, but scripted in such a way as to avoid saying anything of substance. Aristotle believed that all good rhetoric should encompass ethos (ethics), pathos (emotion) and logos (logic). Obama's speeches--and virtually everything he says in public is in speech form as read from a teleprompter--are long on emotional appeals to and about members of favored victim groups, and often make reference to lofty ethical concerns, but they are virtually devoid of logic, the logic that can be supported by ethics and emotion (they never take its place). Yes, we all want fluffy puppies and kitties to be allowed to live in peace and harmony, but Obama seldom, if ever, explains how this is to be accomplished.
In delivery, Obama is slow, plodding and inflexible. His head constantly turns right to left and back again, in a rhythm calculated to give the impression of making eye contact with his audience, but he is merely reading from teleprompter screens, and as such, his gaze never shifts higher or lower than the level of the screens.
He speaks in the cadence of a pseudo-evangelical preacher, but without the passion. His phrases are brief, rise in volume and pace in the middle, and slow quickly and drop dramatically in volume at the end, often clipping short final consonants. This is no doubt an artifact of the teleprompter. One can't squeeze too much text on the small screens without making it too difficult to read. There is little vocal variety in Obama's speaking.
His references to history and fact are all too often false or contradictory, and he often engages in blatant falsehoods, falsehoods that are easy to check and debunk. However, Obama relies on a compliant, drooling press to protect him, and for the most part, that trust is not misplaced.
Ultimately, what is most missing from Obama's speeches is substance. One can easily see what I mean by reading the speeches of Abraham Lincoln or even Martin Luther King. These are men who obviously read and understood Aristotle. I suspect Obama may have heard of him.
Great orator? Obama would barely rate a "C" in any college speech class not taught by a lunatic leftist.
Posted by: Mike at June 6, 2009 05:58 PMFunny thing this poll...I was a respondent to it :) and count myself in the numbers of "moderately conservative" and "independent". TOTO and the Dems got NO positives from me.
Of course, the only choices on the policy questions were "press 1 for R" or "press 2 for D". I sure as Hades wasn't going to ever press 2. Now if they would have had a "Press 3 for Other Party", that would have been my choice since I have a really hard time trusting the GOP anymore on any of the questions asked...on the other hand, I DO trust the GOP infinitely more than the DEMs to screw things up less.
Posted by: PhyCon at June 7, 2009 01:51 AMYa'll need to elect me as President. I can fix this mess.
I know how to do it.
'Dude" what is that, you some hipster doofus?
The Rasmussen poll which measures strong approval/disapproval is much more informative than standard polling results. And BTW, it also measures total approval/disapproval too. On the day strong disapproval was as high as strong approval, Obama had a total favorable/unfavorable of 54%/46%, and not a 60% approval rating as you claimed.
It is no accident that obama always speaks of the Constitution in the past tense. It is over.
Posted by: Jim at June 8, 2009 04:25 PMBrad, Yes, I'm a an old country boy hippie at heart. Doofus? Some folks might think so. Many don't. I don't care one way or another.
Hey Brad, check this out:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
This shows that the average of all the major polls from May 26-June 8 gives Obama a 59.6 approval vs. 33.9 disapproval. On 6-6 through 6-8 the Rasmussen spread was 58 vs 41.
So it ain't 60%. For the sake of this discussion I think it's honest to say.........close enough.
Facts: Pesky little things aren't they?
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