I will be listening carefully for any reference of his having been kicked out of Harvard for cheating on a Spanish exam. I do not expect to hear it mentioned.

"Ted Kennedy wanted more and bigger government, because he did not believe in nor understand the true genius of America"

Probably because he was born into massive wealth, never experienced the need to meet a payroll or worry about earning enough to make ends meet. He had his wealth and could care less about increasing taxes on those that also wanted to live the good life.

CY, you neglected to mention he left the scene of that fatal accident.

Ah yes, "the dream shall never die."

Sorry, Teddy Boy, it just did. And, given current federal deficit trends, Obama will be forced to bury it.

A very restrained and tasteful response on your part.

Can I be the first to say that Mary Jo was not available for comment?

Teddy would not have suffered at all under the socialized medicine he so longed to inflict upon his less fortunate fellow citizens. In every totalitarian state there is a special, protected class. The Soviets called their the nomenklatura.

Those people get the best of everything, not available to the proles. Teddy would never has whiled away the hours waiting in a government health center, to be told his condition was not covered or scarce resources dictated against one of his age getting treatment. For him, it would have been the best Swiss clinics, or wherever good, expensive medicine would be provided to those able to pay, and deemed worthy.

But nonetheless, stand by for impassioned arguments that if only we'd had national health care, Teddy'd still be alive. He'd probably be playing tennis with Christopher Reeves.

I did not despise Kennedy for being a leftist. no, being a hypocrite claiming to be Catholic while simultaneously supporting unfettered access to abortion, and using his privilege to escape a homicide charge was all that was necessary.

The world is better off without him.

Although I don’t think we could have disagreed more on points of politics and character, I pray that God gives his family the strength to make it through their time of grief and tribulation…

Anyway, I’m sure it’s better than the family watching him suffer any longer. But, as you noted, the nation will have to suffer a bit more as his life will be celebrated in a Wellstonian fashion by the MSM…

And, I wouldn’t put it past O!&Co to try and capitalize on this, implorting people and legislators to vote for Obamacare, “because Teddy would have wanted it that way…”

After all, one should never let a crisis go to waste…

RIP Ted Kennedy

It's not really my nature to speak ill of the deceased - but in Ted Kennedy's case I could make an exception.

Leave it at: good riddance.

One less murderer in the Democrat party.

Like all humans, Senator Kennedy had his faults and shortcomings. Nevertheless, he'll be remembered in history as having been a champion for the poor and the everyday average Joe.

Furthermore, he was regarded by Republican senators as the most effective and bipartisan senator on Capitol Hill. While being a hardcore liberal, he knew how to forge alliances with the opposition party to get results by compromise.

In spite of his personal faults, he was the consumate politician and statesman. Though you may not miss him, millions of everyday Americans as well as his Senate colleagues on both sides of the political aisle WILL miss him. I thank him for his service to our nation.

Just think if Kennedy would have contacted the Japanese in 1942 to try and hurt Franklin Roosevelt. He would have been executed on the Senate floor for treason, possibly by Roosevelt himself.

Yeah, Uncle Teddy was a real Peach. Yeesh!

Mega dittos.

Good riddance. Too bad Mary Jo didn't swim to safety and leave that worthless POS to suck air from a bubble for an hour or two.

Another noteworthy fact about Senator Kennedy: After being elected in a special election to fill the vacant Massachusetts senate seat, after the election of his brother, JFK, to the Presidency, the citizens of Massachusetts proceeded to easily re-elect him eight times. The closest margin of victory in his Senate career was when he defeated Mitt Romney with 58% of the vote, in 1994.

Say what you will about the man. He obviously represented the majority of the citizens of his home state.

Let's also not forget the very important role that Senator Kennedy played in making sure that our soldiers in Iraq are better protected with "armored" Humvees. He lobbied hard to get this passed when many in Congress seemed to think that the lives of our young men and women in the armed forces didn't justify the additional costs of the armor.

According to the dad of Private First Class John Hart, who died in an unarmored Humvee: “Hundreds if not thousands of men and women are alive today because of his actions.”

Credit where credit is due.

Happy trails, "Splash".

I'll see you in Hell.

@Dude

don't expect any credit where credit is due. In these people's eyes 1 > 100 or 1000, if the 1 is MJK.

Rather intemperate even if true.

Massachusettes, the birthplace of our liberty, took a wrong turn ithe 1840's and has been a thorn in the side of freedom ever since. Maybe it's now at an end.

"Let's also not forget the very important role that Senator Kennedy played in making sure that our soldiers in Iraq are better protected with "armored" Humvees. He lobbied hard to get this passed"

That's a flat out lie. Kennedy would smile wide at each and every American soldier's death in Iraq. He would trumpet every "grim milestone" of 1,000 deaths, 2,000 deaths, 3,000 deaths, etc...There is a very special place in hell for people who use our soldiers deaths for personal political gain.

....There is a very special place in hell for people who use our soldiers deaths for personal political gain. Capitalist Infidel at 05:20 PM
There should be a special place in hell for scum like Bush who sent med to die for nothing and for his fascist apologists who cheered. You are all vile contemptible weasels.

Question: What preceded Ted Kennedy sad, pathetic death?

Answer: His sad, pathetic life.

Ted, Glad to see you. Its been a while. Want some scotch? Why, sure, I'll take a ride with you at 12:45 am to f*** like monkeys. Hell, your a Kennedy. Your inheritance is alcoholism, narcissism, rum running, womanizing, cheating, murdering, raping. Hope you can make the climb. Seems awful far from here.

Your friend,

Mary Jo

Kennedy may have been driving drunk and his reckless driving clearly led to the death of a young woman. This was a terrible thing for Kennedy to have done.

But what is a much more terrible thing is what Kennedy did after that. He spent most of the next forty years trying to do things to improve the lives of other people. He had a particular penchant for trying to help people who were not able to make considerable campaign contributions.

The event from 1969 clearly should have precluded Kennedy from making any effort to become a better person over his next forty years or to do any good. His actions from 1969 should have prevented him from holding any job, or attempting to do favors for any people. He should have been legally required to not do anything good with his live or be nice to any people.

I am disgusted that such a man was ever allowed to do so much good in the world after he had obviously done wrong. I have heard of some freakish religions that concern themselves with redemption, forgiveness, and helping the poor. Obviously, such crazy notions have not crept into any Western religions.

Kennedy's life is a very important lesson that we are reminded of far too infrequently: If you do something wrong in your life, the actions you take from that point forward over the rest of your life are completely irrelevant to who you are.

flarbuse, you mean later events such as creating "borking?" Or the various other scurrilous political attacks he's made that would be grounds for libel and slander outside of the protected world of the Senate?

Do the poor he's helped included the millions that died of abortions in the decades he has been an advocate for this most disturbing form of genocide? Or are you referring to the tens or hundreds of millions of people that he didn't think deserved liberty in Vietnam, Iraq, and behind the Iron Curtain? His brothers fought totalitarianism; Ted the drunkard embraced it.

There is no doubt Ted Kennedy some good acts in his life.

There is also no doubt those acts were far outweighed by the evil he furthered or ignored during his time on Earth.

"That's a flat out lie. Kennedy would smile wide at each and every American soldier's death in Iraq. He would trumpet every "grim milestone" of 1,000 deaths, 2,000 deaths, 3,000 deaths, etc...There is a very special place in hell for people who use our soldiers deaths for personal political gain."

No, it's not a lie that he played an important role in armoring the Humvees. If you think it's a like, you're blinded to the truth by your hatred of the man. And, if you think it's a lie, you should say that to Private First Class John Hart's dad.

To say that he,.. "would smile wide at each and every American soldier's death in Iraq"....goes beyond the pale of political differences. You're a very sick person Capitalist Infidel. Very sick.

I have no problem with his,or any one else's opposition to to the immoral and unjust wars in either Southeast Asia or in Iraq.

As far as the "the poor he's helped included the millions that died of abortions" goes, since when did fetuses get checking accounts?

Yes Kennedy did make a mistake in 1969. We all make mistakes and should forgive him. But most of the people I know including myself do not leave an innocent women to suffocate in his own sunken car and then not tell anyone about it. How about the mistake in December 1985 where he grabbed a waitress at Washington’s La Brasserie restaurant, picked her up from the table and threw her into the lap of friend Sen. Chris Dodd to make a sandwich. I know innocent mistake. How about constantly cheating on his first wife and then September 1987 screwed his blonde girlfriend on the floor of La Brasserie. Or May 14, 1983 working with the head of the KGB, Viktor Chebrikov to screw over Reagan and the American poeple. I know, another mistake that we should look past. Hey Dude and Flarbuse, if you call the Pope he may consider dear old Ted for canonization, it is worth a shot.

good riddance, if I still cared to fly an American flag it would be at full mast - buck farack

Images of Mary Jo waterboarding Ted till he admits he left her to die...funny don't you think Jeebs

"Images of Mary Jo waterboarding Ted till he admits he left her to die...funny don't you think Jeebs"

Funny if you're a humorless, willfully ignorant conservative.

Kennedy must have had some serious issues as a young man. Kicked out of Harvard in 1951, then serves 2 full years in the US Army and remained a private all that time. From my Army experience only a true dud would remain a private a full 2 years.

Rick,

You're probably right about Senator Kennedy having serious issues in his youth, and even past his youth.

Nevertheless, he will be remembered in history by far more for his accomplishments and his service to our nation than for his faults as a mere human being.

He certainly made his share of mistakes, as we all do. When all is said and done his legacy will be that of a man who did his very best to help as many people as he could. It's called redemption.

Yeah, gee Rick, what a dud.

He couldn't even have daddy pull some strings so he could hide out in 'Bama protecting Atlanta from Charlie.

Dude, I agree he was great at taking money from those that made it to give to those that did not, but that was with our money. I bet he has that estate structured in such a way that it escapes the Federal Estate Tax and everything will be bequeathed to his decendents.

I bet he did have that estate structured as you've described. If he had any sense he had it properly structured. That's what wealthy people do.

In fact, I bet that was taken care of decades ago, way back in his dad's day.

Dude, presently the Unified Tax Credit is 3.5 mill and with his wealth the only way he can escape the Federal Estate Tax is by violating the law, or some type of sham charity trust.

Dude, I guess his estate might be grandfathered in some kind of family trust his dad formed years back that escapes the dreaded death tax. My point to you is that he was good at giving away the money of others, but was he good at giving away his own? In addition, if his wealth is structured in such a way that no federal death tax is due, then he was a hypocrite of the first class in fighting every attempt to reduce the Federal Estate (Death) Tax knowing it would not appy to him.

"Dude, I agree he was great at taking money from those that made it to give to those that did not, but that was with our money."

Yeah Ricky.

How dare he "take away" money that you or John McCain or Paris Hilton could have spent on your fourth vacation home, and waste it on school lunches or vaccines?

Why, if you're rich in America, you're actually poor.

Someone hand Little Ricky a tissue.

It's as though your're trying to be TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS!!! only ending up regurgitating boring insults.

The way to do it is to use the Kennedy coverage to passive-aggressively advance a preexisting agenda. Such as complaining about media bias or health insurance reform.

excuse is that fartbuse or flarbuse?

You know, today on what else Fox a guest reported how really bad he was dureing his marriage and after his divorce - really really bad. His wife now is 25 years younger than him and laid the law down before she would marry him.

We don't need another Lincoln cult please! Do not for get the Kennedy's badness and just extol how great he was.

Josephine, my dear, don't you worry your sweet little self, bless your heart. You have nothing to worry about. Plenty of folks will continue to dwell on Senator Kennedy's "badness". In fact, they will be obsessed with it to the point that they won't see any of his "goodness".

Rick, according to several articles that I've read, yes, he was good at giving away his own money to help people. It wasn't something that he bragged about. People whom he has helped, with his own money, are talking quite a bit during these past few days. Check out some of the news on the dreaded MSM. You might learn something.

Do you actually believe that wealthy conservatives don't take advantage of every legal loophole in the tax code to avoid the estate tax. People with REAL money, regardless of their politics, pay people good money to avoid that. It just IS.

>>"But what is a much more terrible thing is what Kennedy did after that. He spent most of the next forty years trying to do things to improve the lives of other people. He had a particular penchant for trying to help people who were not able to make considerable campaign contributions."

Ha, ha, ha!

Good, we need a little humor around here. Keep up the good work, that is excellent parody.

>>"Do you actually believe that wealthy conservatives don't take advantage of every legal loophole in the tax code to avoid the estate tax."

The point you keep missing, dood, is that "wealthy conservatives" don't think that anybody should be paying the estate tax, or high taxes in general. While people like Ted Kennedy DO claim to believe that the rich have the obligagation to pay though the nose.

I've noticed that people on the left have zero sensitivity for hypocrisy when it's people on the left being outrageous hypocrites. Funny how that works. Funny how Teddy could get away with being exactly the sort of corrupt plutocrat the left pretends to hate.

>>"The event from 1969 clearly should have precluded Kennedy from making any effort to become a better person over his next forty years"

Whether it should have so precluded him from such an effort is an open question. What is certain is that he spent the next forty years behaving as exactly the same sort of contemptible and dishonest pig he had revealed himself to be at Chappaquiddick.

Dude, you miss my point, but that's OK.

You clearly are not familiar with the Federal Estate Tax, and I'm not going to take the time and explain it to you.

This thread is really kind of pathetic. All of the name calling and juvenile antics isn't becoming for public debate. Ted Kennedy was one of the worst U.S. Senators in history, and I don't need to call him names or hate him in order to say that. The things he stood for have done lasting and perhaps irreparable harm to our nation, have institutionalized poverty (making a new and reliable constituency for the Democratic party while driving the nation into massive debt, have led to the slaughter of millions of innocent unborn children in the wombs of their mothers, all while he used the venerable name "Catholic" as a shield. I find his actions so horrendous, so in violation of the Constitution, so morally reprehensible, that any further calling of names would be to pile on and kick a dead horse, quite literally. He is dead, and he is not yet in the ground, so this is the charitable version. Let history sort the rest out.

Ted,

Looks like you still are having trouble with the climb. Keep trying, maybe the Pope can help you. I understand you gave him a sealed prayer request. Good move. You are, oops, were, always thinking about everyone else deferentially to yourself. What a guy! The Kennedy clan has always been such a swell family. Nothing but saints. Well, at least luckily dead.

Love and Kisses,

Mary Jo

From Ed Klein, Newsweek and NY Times Magazine Editor, describing Teddy's penchant for joking about Chappiquidiick:

I don't know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, "have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?" That is just the most amazing thing. It's not that he didn't feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too.

Teddy, I died there remember. Wasn't so funny to me. You were an olympic class swimmer, and you couldn't dive 7 foot down in a slack tide, but could somehow swim 250 yards across a river to get back to your hotel room to hide the truth. Remember me, a woman who should be alive today.

Keep climbing Teddy. You might still make it.

Most writers have the essential component of the Kennedy-Chappaquiddick saga wrong.

Mary Jo Kopechne did NOT drown. She in fact suffocated. The woman perished while trapped in the submerged Oldsmobile sedan while under water in a dark tidal pond. It was long ago figured that Kopechne survived for at least an hour or more after the crash by breathing from an air pocket. No matter how it’s sliced, that has to be a tough way to die.

With a little detective work it has been figured that the real Chappaquiddick story was fundamentally different from the extensive lie promoted by Kennedy himself. Facts strongly suggest that Kopechne disappeared from the party at an earlier time. She’d mentioned to more than one person that cigarette smoke and the stuffy atmosphere at the cottage were making her feel ill. It was figured that Mary Jo Kopechne after making her way outside, found the unlocked Oldsmobile 4-door sedan, laid down across the back seat and fell asleep. There was no conspiracy or plot involved. It was a matter of simple happenstance.

Later that night, the routinely drunk Teddy Kennedy left the party with another woman, got behind the wheel of the Oldsmobile and aimed the car in the direction of the beach road. Kennedy, with one other person in the front and another laying down on the back seat only made it as far as the narrow Dike Bridge. With his driving skills impaired, Kennedy lost control and drove the car off the bridge and into the Chappaquiddick - Poucha tidal pond.

Perhaps it was the cold ocean water that helped Kennedy sober up enough to escape along with the mystery woman front seat passenger. It is believed that Kennedy did not know that another person was in that car. Kennedy made it back on foot to some point where he was able to make contact with his political minions. Somehow, the operatives got him over to the main island of Martha’s Vineyard, where Kennedy was checked into a motel. Records later showed that numerous phone calls were made back and forth from Kennedy’s room telephone all during the night. He was later seen, in the early morning, having breakfast at the motel coffee shop while casually chatting with other guests.

Meanwhile, local police had discovered in the tidal pond, the now partially exposed Oldsmobile sedan. Upon closer examination, the body of a young woman was found in a corner area near the rear window. Artificial respiration was carried out, but Mary Jo Kopechne could not be revived. Noticed at the time, was that no water could found in the woman’s lungs. Early on, it was figured that Kopechne had not drowned but instead had suffocated. Despite Massachusetts state law, no autopsy was ever performed on Mary Jo Kopechne’s body to discover the true cause of death.

Kennedy’s later contrived story had him at the risk of his own life “diving repeatedly in an effort to save Miss Kopechne”. At the time, innumerable Massachusetts residents, including me, were outraged. Political stooges had taken depraved actions of the drunk miscreant Teddy Kennedy and spun the homicidal debacle into a performance of heroism.

Despite all, the contemptible Teddy Kennedy was elected again and again to the United States Senate by the people of Massachusetts. To this day, I have been unable to find anybody who ever admits to have voted for Kennedy.

No doubt, the entire federal election system along with congress and senate needs a good strong enema. Perhaps with Kennedy’s final flush into the sewer pipe of history, the great cleansing can now commence.

Wboyz/girlz give it up!

Health care reform will pass due to the work of Edward Moore Kennedy

This is disgusting. What is wrong with you people?

Most writers have the essential component of the Kennedy-Chappaquiddick saga all wrong.

Mary Jo Kopechne did NOT drown. She in fact suffocated. The woman perished while trapped in the submerged Oldsmobile sedan under water in a pitch black tidal pond. It was long ago figured that Kopechne survived for at least an hour or more after the crash by breathing from an air pocket. No matter how it’s sliced, that has to be a tough way to die.

With a little detective work it has been figured that the real Chappaquiddick story was fundamentally different from the extensive lie promoted by Kennedy himself. Facts strongly suggest that Kopechne disappeared from the party at an earlier time. She’d mentioned to more than one person that cigarette smoke and the stuffy atmosphere at the cottage were making her feel ill. It was figured that Mary Jo Kopechne after making her way outside, found the unlocked Oldsmobile 4-door sedan, laid down across the back seat and fell asleep. There was no conspiracy or plot involved. It was a matter of simple happenstance.

Later that night, the routinely drunk Teddy Kennedy left the party with another woman, got behind the wheel of the Oldsmobile and aimed the car in the direction of the beach road. Kennedy, with one other person in the front and another laying down on the back seat only made it as far as the narrow Dike Bridge. With his driving skills impaired, Kennedy lost control and drove the car off the bridge and into the Chappaquiddick - Poucha tidal pond.

Perhaps it was the cold ocean water that helped Kennedy sober up enough to escape along with the front seat passenger. It is believed that at the time, Kennedy did not know that another person was in the back seat of the car. He made it back on foot to a point where contact was made with political minions. Somehow, the operatives got Kennedy over to the main island of Martha’s Vineyard, where he was checked into a motel. Records later showed that numerous phone calls were made to and from Kennedy’s room telephone during the night. He was later seen, in the early morning, having breakfast at the restaurant while casually chatting with other guests.

Meanwhile, sometime after dawn with the receding tide, police discovered a partially exposed Oldsmobile sedan next to the bridge. Upon closer examination, the body of a young woman was found in a corner area near the rear window of the car. Artificial respiration, as it was known then, was carried out, but Mary Jo Kopechne could not be revived. Noticed at the time, was that no water could be found in the woman’s lungs. Early on, it was figured that Kopechne had not drowned but instead had suffocated. Despite Massachusetts state law in such a case, no autopsy was ever performed on Mary Jo Kopechne’s body to discover the true cause of death.

Kennedy’s later contrived story had him at the risk of his own life “diving repeatedly in an effort to save Miss Kopechne”. At the time, innumerable Massachusetts residents, including me, were outraged. Political stooges had taken depraved actions of the drunk miscreant Teddy Kennedy and spun the homicidal debacle into a performance of heroism.

Despite all, the contemptible Kennedy was elected again and again to the United States Senate by the people of Massachusetts. To this day, I have been unable to find anybody who even admits to having voted for Kennedy. In life and now death Theodore Edward Kennedy was on every level a despicable human being.

If there is one bit of justice to be found in the Chappaquiddick debacle, it is that Kennedy has been forever trapped by his own colossal cover up story lie. For political expediency in the immediate aftermath through his public statement of perjury, Kennedy for all time glued himself into place as the true reason for Kopechne’s death.

Maybe sometime soon, the other woman passenger and witness that night will come forward. It may then be explained that both she and Kennedy had no idea that another person was down in the back seat of that car. Simple fact is that Mary Jo Kopechne perished in tragic accident as an occupant of an automobile driven by a well known habitual drunk. A series of perhaps greater offenses was committed after-the-fact by Kennedy who filed false police reports and fabricated a festival of colossal lies. Truth is, in connection with the Chappaquiddick incident, he perpetrated a cluster of criminal acts. There is no doubt that Teddy Kennedy should have spent forty-seven years in state prison instead of seated within the United State senate.

With that said, the entire federal election system along with congress and senate greatly needs a good strong enema. This nation has to return to the procedures of a true representative republic operated on genuine democratic principles. Perhaps with Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down into the sewer pipe of history, a much needed cleansing can now begin.

Hey, if you had to bury most of your family, you couldn't handle it! Jeeze, it's not until your old and want that handicapped parking, you will realize allthe good that he did and the laws he created and help pass.

With his 10's (or is it really 100's) of millions of dollars of net worth, obama should have a lot of fun "redistributing the wealth". Oh wait, that's only for Republicans! Dems are exempt from everything; paying taxes, following the law, cheating in college, killing someone then lying about it, etc. Were that a Republican, he would have (rightly) rotted in prison!